it aint just them,when i owned the zaffy i had a graunching noise coming from the rear wheels,MY MISSUS took the car into an independent tyre place,and lo and behold they said i needed new disks and pads alround.THEY GOT BLOODY STROPPY with my missus when she told them not to do the work,i went out and bought the parts,ready to be fitted by my m8,but decided to get a 2nd opinion from another tyre place GUESS WOT sod all wrong with them just needed a blow out because of the brake dust,THERE ALL ROBBING BAR*TA*DS.