Tanks SK...exactly what keith said when he picked up it not 15 mins ago.Makes me feel like a right mug for the amount i paid for it. the one taken off our car looks brand new compared to this one. well ive asked him(keith), if there is any way we can get one working alt from the 2 of them.the one i bought came with a 4 month guarentee so i guess im covered there....but i still feel like a tit. :) <_< :)