Aux Heater ?

[NikpV]

there is some variation in the outside temp for firing up - some reports up to 11 degrees - rest of it sounds normal though - could always locate the temp sender(actually a temperature dependent switch rather than a continuously varying output) on the wiper arm linkage and disconnect it - heater should not fire up then Edited March 17, 2008 by NikpV

[DougJones]

Thanks NikpV,

I'll try that! although I have already hade the sensor off and checked continuity whilst holding it on the side of the freezer - worked fine, but not sure of actual temp cut in. will do as you suggest and remove it and see if it fires up.

Cheers

 

 

 

 

2003 Seat Alhambra 130 tdi SE 30,000 miles

[Ginettamad]

Back again,

As suspected Mine is not working properly as it has no jet noise and smoke drifts out of the exhaust so the blower fan is not working. If the glow plug is faulty does that stop the fan running as the pump was obviously still pumping diesel through due to the smelly smoke?

I spent an hour or so last night getting the nuts and bolts loose as they were all very stubborn. If only mine was as clean as the one in the photos!

My heater has alan socket head bolts on the end that look very seized so I left them for now coved in WD40. Do these go right through the two alloy sections because if they do I suspect they will sheer off on mine . What length and size are they please as I'll buy some before I start again. I dropped the heater out of its frame but it wouldn

[stevie m]

To release the plug from the frame push it up. Yes the bolts go all the way in to the casing and if you want replacements go to the dealers. The glowplug will more than likely be part number 0100.226.340 this is a new uprated plug and if yours is the original one then the part number will say 228 at the end IIRC. Check the glowplug before you buy as some may have wires fitted to them (2 wires) and they are main dealer only where as the others are not. If your plug is 340 dont go to the dealers you can find them cheaper. One last thing when you open the casing up be aware of the plug inside the tabs on it are fragile and break easily. :ph34r: Edited March 20, 2008 by stevie m

[Mikef]

Am just starting to look at doing this on my Galaxy (after Ford told me yesterday I need a whole new unit...not at those prices thank you!!) .

 

My quetsion is - if I replace the plug, do I need to do something with software, or will it just work automatically?

 

Am about to plough through this thred to work out where to get the plug from for a 2002 Galaxy.

 

 

cheers all

 

mikef

[scrote]

Hi Guys - Grey smoke time !! - where is the best place to buy a new glow plug for the aux heater at the moment - Nothing on flea bay :lol:

[widget]

HI,

 

I've been through the Aux heater issues before - back in Nov 2005, and with this excellent forum I managed to replace the glow plug and all was well.......until now.

 

The smoke started to appear again, so I went and bought another glow plug from VW to fix it.

 

Fitting was more of a pain - as all those bolts that were rusty last time were worse this time! - to the extent I had to drill one of them out.

 

Anyway, got the plug replaced and put it all back together - but heater didn't appear to work.

 

I bought one of those interface cables and free vag-com software and it reported a number of error codes (not visible without paying the extra for vag-com) but it did say "lock-out" - so I cleared the codes - unfortunately at that time it was too warm for the heater to have come on.

 

This morning it was cold (!) and the heater started to fire - there was some white smoke (which I assumed was just a burn off of residual crap), the jet engine noise started and then some loud ticking (which is always a good sign) - then it all stopped :-(

 

I heard it fire up again, more jet noise, more ticking - then off, and then nothing - so I'm assuming its locked out again.

 

One thing that was different this time when I replaced the glow plug was that when I pulled out the old one, a tubular gauze looking object came out with it - pretty much stuck on the plug - I don't remember this during the first replacement. I managed to get it off, scrape some crud off it and then I pushed it back into the whole the plug came out of as far as it would seem to go, I then put the plug in but it was a tighter fit than before.

 

Is the plug meant to sit directly in this gauze? anyone come across this?

 

I'm confident I can reset the vag-com fault codes again but I assume it will just go to lock-out again at the moment

 

Any help would be appreciated

 

Graham

 

PS. I've started a new thread for visibility - but please update the main thread.

[widget]

Read fault codes last night, am getting "Repeated Flame out"

 

....any ideas based on previous message?

 

cheers

 

Graham

[NikpV]

see post on other thread -

 

please keep posts to one thread we can always put a link here if it looks useful - thank you

Edited April 9, 2008 by NikpV

[cowboyasterix]

HI,

 

I've been through the Aux heater issues before - back in Nov 2005, and with this excellent forum I managed to replace the glow plug and all was well.......until now.

 

The smoke started to appear again, so I went and bought another glow plug from VW to fix it.

 

Fitting was more of a pain - as all those bolts that were rusty last time were worse this time! - to the extent I had to drill one of them out.

 

Anyway, got the plug replaced and put it all back together - but heater didn't appear to work.

 

I bought one of those interface cables and free vag-com software and it reported a number of error codes (not visible without paying the extra for vag-com) but it did say "lock-out" - so I cleared the codes - unfortunately at that time it was too warm for the heater to have come on.

 

This morning it was cold (!) and the heater started to fire - there was some white smoke (which I assumed was just a burn off of residual crap), the jet engine noise started and then some loud ticking (which is always a good sign) - then it all stopped :-(

 

I heard it fire up again, more jet noise, more ticking - then off, and then nothing - so I'm assuming its locked out again.

 

One thing that was different this time when I replaced the glow plug was that when I pulled out the old one, a tubular gauze looking object came out with it - pretty much stuck on the plug - I don't remember this during the first replacement. I managed to get it off, scrape some crud off it and then I pushed it back into the whole the plug came out of as far as it would seem to go, I then put the plug in but it was a tighter fit than before.

 

Is the plug meant to sit directly in this gauze? anyone come across this?

 

I'm confident I can reset the vag-com fault codes again but I assume it will just go to lock-out again at the moment

 

Any help would be appreciated

 

Graham

 

PS. I've started a new thread for visibility - but please update the main thread.

 

 

Check electric water pump under bonet. If not working, you will have to put a new carbon brushes on it.

[XRS]

Great thread guys.

 

Can I re-start this for Winter 2008?

 

My wife's Galaxy has the excess grey smoke problem, and having read all 23 pages I'm about to start the car and see what I can hear. Booked into the stealer next Monday, and as I reported it to them last winter when it was still in warranty ("They all do that Sir") I'm going to be pushing for a FOC job :lol:

[XRS]

Well, it needs a complete new unit, and the dealer or insisting that they have to charge (over

[gregers]

THATS BECAUSE FORDS DO NOT HAVE A BLOODY CLUE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS OR MOST PROBLEMS BECAUSE ITS A VW i had all of this when i bought mine,they even had the cheek to tell me that if i myself went and obtained parts from vw then they would fit them BUT WOULD NOT GUARANTEE THEM HOW F****ING DUMB IS THAT????i said to them where do they get there parts from the reply was ford direct and i said where do they get them from vw was the response and then repackaged :o

i do believe that vw do some kind of a service kit(or did)go to them i bet there be a lot more helpful then fords.then if it is fubared you have a choice of leaving it or having a look on ebay,dont forget to search under sharan/alhambra/galaxy and see what gets thrown up.

 

iirc the glow plug costs in the region of

[XRS]

THATS BECAUSE FORDS DO NOT HAVE A BLOODY CLUE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS OR MOST PROBLEMS BECAUSE ITS A VW i had all of this when i bought mine,they even had the cheek to tell me that if i myself went and obtained parts from vw then they would fit them BUT WOULD NOT GUARANTEE THEM HOW F****ING DUMB IS THAT????i said to them where do they get there parts from the reply was ford direct and i said where do they get them from vw was the response and then repackaged :o

i do believe that vw do some kind of a service kit(or did)go to them i bet there be a lot more helpful then fords.then if it is fubared you have a choice of leaving it or having a look on ebay,dont forget to search under sharan/alhambra/galaxy and see what gets thrown up.

 

iirc the glow plug costs in the region of

[gregers]

dunno really as i had to have a new unit fitted under warranty,but they seemed to know more about them then fords ever did ;) but then again that aint hard.

 

 

as your in the same town,i do have another booster heater sitting in my garage :D ;) i bought it on the off chance i couldnt get the result i wanted from my supplying dealer.i was told it is in working condition.

 

what part of town do you hail from????? :P

[rigsworth]

For the record..

Does the aux heater have anything to do with the heat that comes from the front vents in the Galaxy?

My car has chosen the right time of year to spew out nothing but cold stuff from all the vents in the car.

It was overheating and I had the thermostat replaced today in the hope that it was the cause of my cold air issues.

 

Thanks in advance.

;)

[edatelder]

Yes, it does. It's supposed to heat the water in cooling circuit quicker than the engine does in the winter. If you read the thread you'll see it comes on when temperatures are low and the car water is below a certain temp. Most people's aux heaters seem to be bust. Mine is and the car takes 10 or more miles to warm up,

[rigsworth]

Would you say the best way to sort it is to do it yourself or is there any place in the East London / Romford area you could recommend I get it looked at?

 

Thanx again.

 

Rigz.

[gregers]

if you dont mind getting yours hands dirty and you know which end of a spanner to use,then follow the instructions found in this thread,plus it could save you a few quid.or just choose a garage to do it for you.

[rigsworth]

Well, in the end I took it to the Fraud dealer and was quoted

[Mirez]

Rigsworth that is complete BS, the aux heaters coolent lines are spurs from the main matrix so even if they were blocked it wouldn't cause it to overheat. Its far more likely to be a broken main water pump.

 

I will be taking my aux heater apart tomorrow with luck (if the weather is good) for plug replacement so will take more photos for the thread.

[Mirez]

Well I completed my glow plug replacement today - took just over 2 hours and was suprisingly easy to do. Rain stopped testing though so will have to wait for the eventual outcome but I am certainly optomistic of a fix :unsure:

 

Detailed instructions of removal, replacement and refit attached. Hope they help :angry:

AuxHeater.pdf

[rigsworth]

Wow...

That's a serious doc right there.

I'll be damed if I know what to do, even with the diagrams and everythin, but thanks.

I'm just waiting to see if my stuff can be fixed under warranty. It's either that or I'll pay somebody else to do it for me.

I have no confidence in the Fraud Stealers.

Thanx m8.

 

Rigz..

[wayne12]

Hi all, not long purchased a 2005 galaxy 1.9td ghia. Bought it as i was sick of being under my 3.0l omega Elite, I now find i'm in the same boat as a lot of other members THE DREADED BOOSTER HEATER. No signs of life at all, no smoke or any noise coming from it. The galaxy has climate control so I guess there is no switch to turn it on its fully automatic.

Could my fellow members instruct me in the correct procedure it find of the correct fix. Many thanks, WAYNE

[XRS]

Form memory I believe you'll find what you want on about page 7 of this thread.

 

Having had mine replaced at the dealers last week I now find that the rear auto a/c has a fault, and a rear parking sensor has failed. No way they could have broken something is there?