Andy - thanks for all your help now everything electrical works perfectly - (windows go up and down when you lock the doors, turn on the radio and the mirror moves and move the mirror and the cat gets out of the bag) BUT one final thing - the door strap thingy which stops the door opening too far now will not reach across so I can drop the last bolt in - it seems to refuse to extend - go on tell me I now have take off the door card - change the exhaust pipe and what ever else to get this to release itself Francis