40k + Cambelt Competition

[tim-spam]

To change a cam chain, you can indeed do it by splitting the old chain and drawing the new one in with the old one. However, by the time the chain needs changing (about 200,000 miles on my old 190D, although it had been noisy for a while), the tensioner slipper and hydraulic tensioner will almost certainly need changing as well - this was a cylinder head off job.

[Guest blatters]

Just when you thought it was safe to book your TDi Galaxy's in for their timing belt changes at 40,000 intervals.....................

Maybe not. It may be that some TDi's still have 60,000 while others are 40,000.

My dealer called and told me that, where they have been making sure every TDi in on 40,000 multiples gets a timing belt change, they have discovered that the advice from the centre is not clear. They were dealing with an '03' plate TDi and, on this model, it really remained 60,000.

They have checked with Ford and various documentation and read-outs conflict.

To be fair, the dealer was trying to explain the extreme difficulty they're having to get a clear line on this despite their very best efforts. They seem very sincere - the service manager is an honest and ethical fellow (boy, I think he's needed the patience of a saint with our car and us lately).

So my advice to you lot is get a concrete assurance from your dealer and, in the absence of that, follow your service book. That way the hell of a siezed engine will be Ford's responsibility should the worst happen to you.

Regards

Blatters

[Guest lablover]

I've just had q quote from my local Ford Dealer for a major servive (120k miles) and a cambelt change. They quoted me

[Taliska]

It seems the mis-quote was the real price to do the job on a different engine...

Mine's the 115bhp and the

[Scorpiorefugee]

This is all very worrying!

My ford dealer assured me that my 52 ghia tdi did not need a cam belt change before I took delivery (68k on the clock) because the more recent engines had chains and didn't need changing. I believed him because he is, after all, the main dealer and is therefore an expert.

I am just going upstairs to lie down....

[lazyb5]

Hi scorpio i think i may be in the same boat so to speak been looking at my friends 52 1.9tdi i`m sure i asked about the cambelt and he said its a chain then came home with service books etc started to read up and its says cambelt change at 40k have started another thread in technical but so far everybody has a belt and has got them changed around 40k

[mumof4]

you get cam belts...timing chains and timing belts....i think

[delboyt]

diesels are cam belts
the petrol 2.0 is defo a chain as i got
that model
i think the 2.3 & 2.6 petrols are chains aswell
i know the 2.3 is as it's the same ford dohc as the 2.0

[mumble_bee]

shouldnt the topic be "Timing Belt Chainge ?"

[mumof4]

[italiastar]

For the record, my dealer assures me that my 2003 (130BHP) Alhambra is 60K. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder who's correct.

[ninjakev]

Just had 40k service [i]and cam belt change[/i] on our 2003 TDI 130 - total cost was 431 of your earth pounds, which I thought was pretty reasonable. Also had the recall work for the dual mass flywheel done - does anyone know if this work included fitting a new clutch? Reason I ask is the invoice stated a 'clutch repair kit' amongst other items but the service reception girl wasn't too sure.

It has to go back in for a new CV joint boot (the parts are on back-order) but this is covered under warranty......phew - it runs out at end of next month lets hope they get the parts soon

.....EDIT.....Just checked the recall section - the clutch was replaced.......must remember to use the 'Search' facility more often

[widu13]

Just got a quote from a small non franchaised garage. From the workshop manual- 2 1/2 hrs for a 130 plus the belt, that'll be

[seatkid]

[quote name='widu13' post='77467' date='Sep 7 2006, 17:53:00']The mechanic is ex VW. [/quote]
Small wonder..... as its usually the tensioner or idler roller that fails.....thats why THESE ITEMS SHOULD BE CHANGED along with the cambelt.....err the price of those bits is somewhat more than the belt.

[widu13]

[quote name='seatkid' post='77516' date='Sep 8 2006, 00:02:58']
[quote name='widu13' post='77467' date='Sep 7 2006, 17:53:00']The mechanic is ex VW. [/quote]
Small wonder..... as its usually the tensioner or idler roller that fails.....thats why THESE ITEMS SHOULD BE CHANGED along with the cambelt.....err the price of those bits is somewhat more than the belt.
[/quote]


Is that recommended or listed for replacement?

[seatkid]

They should be replaced - most dealers do this but a few don't - It always pays to check in detail what work is to be done - don't be afraid to ask or query....you're the customer.

[widu13]

[quote name='seatkid' post='78043' date='Sep 11 2006, 18:07:15']
They should be replaced - most dealers do this but a few don't - It always pays to check in detail what work is to be done - don't be afraid to ask or query....you're the customer.
[/quote]

Thans SK

[tim-spam]

In fact, VW recommends a belt and roller(s) change every 40,000 miles, until some time in 2003 when the belt and rollers (there are 2) were uprated. The interval is now 60,000 miles for the belt and 120,000 miles for the rollers. Apparently, if the later parts (which are now the only ones available from VW) are fitted to earlier cars, the longer intervals also apply.

[widu13]

I know that this is the 40k + cambelt thread, but may I borrow it and ask who's had the best price for cambelt and rollers only ie no service. (Not inc the DIYers. I did an old Skoda and an old Polo but that's my limit!)

I'm still waiting on the chap who previously quoted

[widu13]

All done and dusted.

[Guest gooner52]

not bad m8

i paid

[tim-spam]

Mine cost just under

[Guest mcyoungy]

I know this is a bit old but.......just been quoted

[Guest mcyoungy]

Took the gal in this morning. 3 hours later a phone call to say all done.

[tim-spam]

At the recommended 40,000 miles, mine [i]looked[/i] as good as new - no signs of any cracks or wear, and the width was in specification for a new belt. I'll still change mine every 40,000 miles though.