Automatic Wont Change Out Of First Till Gearbox Is Warm

[amagnu2012]

Hi I have a 2002 galaxy ghia tdi auto LK02 XRH I think its a 5 speed box ( gear lever goes to 4 and handbook says this indicates a 5 speed). Having some big probs with gear change, When the gearbox is cold it holds 1st gear until it practically red lines, I can sometimes force it by going into manual for a second or two. but until the box is warm it slams into 2nd with such force sometimes that its dangerous, After its warm it drives fine, all changes are smooth etc. BUT when the car stands still for more than a 30/40 seconds at traffic lights for instance the problem returns, I am waiting for vag com cable so I can check ATF. What ATF fluid should I use? what gearbox is mine? for future reference, any other advice would be appreciated.

 

many thanx Steve

[chrispb123456]

Finding a suitable fluid apart from Ford dealer (£21 a litre) is difficult, I recently had my box overhauled, he said they use Dexron 3.

A few years back I changed the fluid and used Mercon V which also suitable according to some sites, but if your only topping up you best use the dealer fluid.

AG4 is 4 speed AG5 is 5 speed.

Yours is a 5 speed look here http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleSelection.do and enter your reg no.

 

There's lots off info on here about changing/checking fluid do a search and also look in the FAQ's for more info.

 

Be warned it may not be your problem but is worth trying at least.

[amagnu2012]

Thanx Chris for your speedy response, managed to get some atf from ford at £9.18 per ltr. I expect things are just gonna get more expensive now tho, I put 1ltr in in 250 increments but made no difference, did notice the fluid smelled burnt tho, I think thats probably not a good sign. this is a real conundrum as the car drives perfect when gearbox is warm ( not the engine ) until I stop for 30 secs or so! not managed to get vag com working as yet, Felt real stupid earlier with whole pc setup in car in the street running off extension lead, driver wouldn't load tho. Will try again tomorrow and post results.

 

Steve

[amagnu2012]

Vag com results, what a pig to get that working; )

 

 

VAG-COM Version: Release 409.1-S

 

 

Chassis Type: 7M - VW Sharan

Scan: 01,02,03,08,09,15,16,17,18,19,29,36,37,39,45,46,55,56

 

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Address 01: Engine

Controller: 038 906 019 FA

Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G001AG 1457

Coding: 00001

Shop #: WSC 00021

2 Faults Found:

17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer

P1570 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

18080 - Coolant Fan Control 1: Open or Short to Ground

P1672 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Readiness: N/A

 

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Address 02: Auto Trans

Controller: 09B 927 750 AG

Component: G5 Getriebe 09B 0157

1 Fault Found:

00652 - Gear Monitoring

27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes

Controller: 1J0 907 379 P

Component: ABS 20 IE CAN 0001

Coding: 12702

Shop #: WSC 00020

No fault code found.

 

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.

Controller: 7M3 962 258 S

Component: Multifunkt.Einh 0001

Coding: 04097

Shop #: WSC 00000

2 Faults Found:

01141 - Luggage Compartment Unlocking Switch (E165)

29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent

00955 - Key 1

09-10 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed - Intermittent

 

Do you guys think the shorts may be causing a fault in the gearbox readings speed control etc?

[chrispb123456]

Make a note of the faults or print off, then clear the fault codes take for a drive and see if any reappear.

[amagnu2012]

For the record, this may help a few others that need this info, Ford sold me Castrol ATF TQ DIII £9.18 per ltr. after a bit of research I have found this is now rebranded as Castrol Transmax Dex III. http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-746-castrol-transmax-dex-iii-multivehicle-formerly-castrol-tq-diii-atf.aspx and Halfords sell it at £8.49

 

Steve

[chrispb123456]

For the record, this may help a few others that need this info, Ford sold me Castrol ATF TQ DIII £9.18 per ltr. after a bit of research I have found this is now rebranded as Castrol Transmax Dex III. http://www.opieoils....q-diii-atf.aspx and Halfords sell it at £8.49

 

Steve

That's amazing a dealer promoting Castrol fluid as opposed to their own at more than half the price, I wonder if they use it in their workshop.

[amagnu2012]

Cleared all codes, Took it for a spin and got the following, gearbox issue still there tho.

 

 

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Address 01: Engine

Controller: 038 906 019 FA

Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G001AG 1457

Coding: 00001

Shop #: WSC 00021

No fault code found.

Readiness: N/A

 

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Address 02: Auto Trans

Controller: 09B 927 750 AG

Component: G5 Getriebe 09B 0157

1 Fault Found:

00652 - Gear Monitoring

27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

 

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Address 08: Auto HVAC

Controller: 7M5 907 040 D

Component: CLIMATRONIC MPV GP 0003

Coding: 00010

Shop #: WSC 00020

1 Fault Found:

00792 - A/C Pressure Switch (F129)

35-00 - -

 

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.

Controller: 7M3 962 258 S

Component: Multifunkt.Einh 0001

Coding: 04097

Shop #: WSC 00000

2 Faults Found:

01141 - Luggage Compartment Unlocking Switch (E165)

29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent

00955 - Key 1

09-10 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed - Intermittent

 

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Will try to find sensors and check em 2mo, waiting for a ford manual on disc from fleabay ( to check these is it just a resistance check? ) if yes do you have any info on what they should be?

 

thanx Steve.

[chrispb123456]

Some of your codes are listed here http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00652 check external wiring around gearbox also.

 

Auto HVAC 00792 is probably low refridgerent level

 

01141 check wiring through tailgate gaiter for breaks & shorting wiring

 

00955 to do with key fob, may be faulty or low battery

[amagnu2012]

Mmmm this sounds just like my problem, some real good info here, probably N92 solenoid. Well one step closer anyway, is this a stripdown ( removal of gearbox to get at ) or can i get at it from outside? still waiting on manual. http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4188370-02-1.8T-Jetta-not-shifting-gears-from-1st-when-cold.

 

Steve

[amagnu2012]

having read further into the above forum I am more than convinced this is my problem, some excellent info including how to strip down valve assembly with pics n everything; ) this is a job i think i can tackle myself, so gonna order an N92 solenoid VW part No 09A927331A £62 + VAT and give it a shot. Fingers crossed; )

 

Steve

[amagnu2012]

YES!!!!! N92 fixed it ; ) thanx to the guys on the above link, This is a relatively easy job to do, but due to confined space get a big bag of cable ties to get everything tied back. I didnt use the ratchet tie trick to move the gearbox back. just a little tip from me tho, the vent pipe that goes into the valve area, make life a real pain to do this job. I felt I had nothing to lose on this job, so I cut off an inch or so, it is just a vent pipe after all. made the job of putting the cover back easier. The hardest part of this job was getting a good bead of sealant ( with the limited space ) but you can buy a small tube of silicone that does not require the use of a gun from wilkinsons in the card making dept for £2.00. I hope this will help any others that have the same problem. BTW I am not a mechanic by any means, but i do have some mechanical aptitude ( and SMALL hands ) also many thanx to chrispb for not letting me think I was talking to myself on here ; ) Car drives like a dream now.

Steve

[SilverBeast]

Brilliant! Well done.

 

Hope your still feeling that "high" you get when you fix something that the garage tells you cna't be done or is going to be expensive.

[amagnu2012]

Yip, one guy quoted me £1095 to do this job. So yes Still feeling very smug ; )

[Galaxy quest 71]

I know this is an old post, but I have the same problem. I've changed all the other bits recommended on here and just left with n92.... how easy is it to do, do you need access from underneath.... bit of a novice here..