bell Posted September 5, 2011 Report Posted September 5, 2011 hi,new to this forum.heard slight bang then loss of power, juddering in lower gears and black smoke from exhaust.called aa. guy said it is the egr valve.what is this valve and where can i find it? is it fairly easy to replace?should i stop using car till its fixed?hope someone can help!! Quote
chrispb123456 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Posted September 5, 2011 Hi and welcome to the forumLets have some vehicle details then!! year, engine code, etc. Quote
bell Posted September 5, 2011 Author Report Posted September 5, 2011 Hi and welcome to the forumLets have some vehicle details then!! year, engine code, etc. 53 1.9tdi ghia Quote
chrispb123456 Posted September 6, 2011 Report Posted September 6, 2011 The EGR is visible behind the cam cover, access is better if the bulkhead extension (scuttle) is removed.Tools required quarter inch drive socket set with torx bits is best.Remove the large air pipe held by spring clip and pull off the two vacuum pipes, then there's 3 bolts attaching valve to inlet manifold and 2 bolts under valve attaching small exhaust tube, can be a bit fiddly depending how good you are :D Quote
bell Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Posted September 6, 2011 The EGR is visible behind the cam cover, access is better if the bulkhead extension (scuttle) is removed.Tools required quarter inch drive socket set with torx bits is best.Remove the large air pipe held by spring clip and pull off the two vacuum pipes, then there's 3 bolts attaching valve to inlet manifold and 2 bolts under valve attaching small exhaust tube, can be a bit fiddly depending how good you are :D Thank you very much for your detailed advice.Going to give it a go. Hopefully it'll be ok. thanks again Quote
bell Posted September 15, 2011 Author Report Posted September 15, 2011 The EGR is visible behind the cam cover, access is better if the bulkhead extension (scuttle) is removed.Tools required quarter inch drive socket set with torx bits is best.Remove the large air pipe held by spring clip and pull off the two vacuum pipes, then there's 3 bolts attaching valve to inlet manifold and 2 bolts under valve attaching small exhaust tube, can be a bit fiddly depending how good you are :( Thank you very much for your detailed advice.Going to give it a go. Hopefully it'll be ok. thanks again Got a bit waylaid. Going to attempt it this Sunday. Just to clarify, is this the valve?i seem to have a few more bolts. Quote
chrispb123456 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Posted September 16, 2011 Hold up no thats not it, thats the tandem pump (vacuum & fuel pump) As you look at the engine immediately behind the oil filler , it's just out of view in the top picture.The large air pipe is connected to it here is a pic of mine, you will see the small vacuum pipe on top http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=5455 Quote
bell Posted September 16, 2011 Author Report Posted September 16, 2011 Hold up no thats not it, thats the tandem pump (vacuum & fuel pump) As you look at the engine immediately behind the oil filler , it's just out of view in the top picture.The large air pipe is connected to it here is a pic of mine, you will see the small vacuum pipe on top http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=5455 thanks for that. so its the round unit immediately above the filler cap and behind the hose with gauze around it(heater hose??) Quote
chrispb123456 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Posted September 18, 2011 Sorry for the delay in getting back. Yes you found it. :rolleyes: Quote
bell Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Posted September 18, 2011 Sorry for the delay in getting back. Yes you found it. :rolleyes: Fidly to get off, but managed it( with allen keys and tork set). Very clogged up.Cleaned it.Could move the valve up, so assumed it was ok to replace.Did so but still black smoke coming from exhaust, but not so laboured in lower gears.Should i have bought a new valve? Or is smoke from debris still left in tubes?cheers. Quote
chrispb123456 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Posted September 18, 2011 The EGR valve is held shut with a strong spring, and opens when vacuums applied according to operating conditions, the flap valve should be open all the time engine is running, only closes momentarily when switching off engine.Sudden black smoke could be down to over fuelling or more likely restricted air supply/charge pressure deviatiion (underboost)This could be turbo vanes sticking or maybe something more simple like a perished turbo actuator hose or one of the intercooler pipes split or perished, or damaged intercooler radiatorHave a close inspection of all those items. Quote
bell Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Posted September 18, 2011 The EGR valve is held shut with a strong spring, and opens when vacuums applied according to operating conditions, the flap valve should be open all the time engine is running, only closes momentarily when switching off engine.Sudden black smoke could be down to over fuelling or more likely restricted air supply/charge pressure deviatiion (underboost)This could be turbo vanes sticking or maybe something more simple like a perished turbo actuator hose or one of the intercooler pipes split or perished, or damaged intercooler radiatorHave a close inspection of all those items. Thanks for the info. Will have to get my mechanic to look. seems a bit too complicated for me (im strictly nuts and bolts not diagnosing) as i dont know where these parts are.thanks again for your time. Quote
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