Powershift Problem

[scooper1]

I have 60 plate titanium x 140

I really like the new powershift gearbox very responsive and good MPG

But I have one problem - When I coast up to a roundabout with foot lightly on the break when I try to accelerate into a gap then car does not give any power for about 2 seconds then it drops 2 gears and gives full power normally manages to wheel spin and still not go anywhere - this has happen 4 times in the first 1000 miles on car.

 

Each time this happens I nearly get hit by other cars on roundabout

 

If I stop then before entering the roundabout then I get a nice progressive power delivery

 

I take car to dagenham motors today and had a long test drive with their chief engineer - he did a software update on car

 

The problem got a bit better but was still there

 

is there anyone else we this problem? - I have a friend that has same car and he too has this problem

[insider]

You could try moving the gearstick to the right to put it in Sport mode as you approach the roundabout. This might make the car more responsive?

[chrispb123456]

I have 60 plate titanium x 140

I really like the new powershift gearbox very responsive and good MPG

But I have one problem - When I coast up to a roundabout with foot lightly on the break when I try to accelerate into a gap then car does not give any power for about 2 seconds then it drops 2 gears and gives full power normally manages to wheel spin and still not go anywhere - this has happen 4 times in the first 1000 miles on car.

 

Each time this happens I nearly get hit by other cars on roundabout

 

If I stop then before entering the roundabout then I get a nice progressive power delivery

 

I take car to dagenham motors today and had a long test drive with their chief engineer - he did a software update on car

 

The problem got a bit better but was still there

 

is there anyone else we this problem? - I have a friend that has same car and he too has this problem

Hi there

I have not driven the new galaxy's but just reading the write up about it.

It sounds like the automated manual gearbox in my truck, they call them automatic but there nothing like the automatic transmissions we are used to.

This is how I get around the delay.

 

As you slow down to approach the roundabout with the car still rolling just dab the throttle and accelerate gently, if you accelerrate to hard the car will hesitate while it decides which gear its going to select and because it thinks you want full power will drop 2 gears instead of just 1.

 

Try it and see it that helps you

[scooper1]

Thanks for replies

 

sports mode does help and so does being a bit lighter footed

 

The problem is very intermittent with the new software or maybe I am just getting used to gearbox ....

 

The last software update changed car totally mostly for the better

 

The main difference is in the steering - it is much more direct at motorway speeds much more relaxing

 

The problem is that the galaxy I was driving for the last 10 years was a 4x4 2.8 auto - fantastic until garage put it a two wheel break test and blew the transfer box

Edited January 30, 2011 by scooper1

[Ghia-X]

I also have a 2012 Titanium X 163 Powershift , 6 weeks old and 1200 miles , and havent had any of these issues with mine .

 

The box changes smoothly , response is instant everytime and my hill assist works as it should .

[chrispb123456]

I have just returned from the Local Main Ford Dealership in my area after they tried and tested my new (6 weeks and 3500 miles) Ford Galaxy 163ps. The car was with the Garage due to its inability to accelerate satisfactorily when approaching roundabouts, junctions and overtaking. The car pauses for thought for 2 seconds when the accelerator is pressed and then powers forward. This is very disconcerting and does not instill confidence in the cars ability to actually go. It is very stressful to drive a vehicle not knowing if it is going to go quick enough to get out of a junction or roundabout before another vehicle comes.

 

When attempting to park after driving forward and stopping, there is at least a two second delay before any drive is engaged. After you select reverse gear and if you were performing a 3 point turn, there is also a 2 second gap before forward is engaged. If you chose to press the accelerator before the 2 seconds were up you would just rev the engine and the car would not move in the required direction. When going up a hill in forward gear if you were to stop and try to restart it takes the hill start assist 2 seconds to engage and if you haven't driven off within 2 seconds the hill start assist releases and the vehicle rolls back down the hill. The opposite also happens if you are trying to reverse up an incline, for example to avoid parking too close to your neighbor or a wall. The Vehicle does not hold itself on a hill and it takes 2 seconds before it engages gear so even if you accelerate in reverse it still rolls forward.

 

Selecting sport mode or manually shifting into a lower gear does NOT improve the acceleration as it still takes 2 seconds before the engine springs into life. When going from the flat to a steep incline where a lower gear is required the vehicle sits there revving but not moving as it is in the wrong gear (2 Seconds), then it changes to 1st gear and is overpowered going up the hill.

 

The Ford Dealership have advised me that the car is performing as it was designed and there is nothing wrong with it. There are no software updates available and the five hours they had the car with them today has made no difference to its performance.

 

I wonder who designed this car with a 2 second delay before gears and power are engaged? Why would Ford install an automatic gearbox into a car that rolls the opposite way to the selected gear direction on a hill? Why on earth would ford design and then produce a car as useless as this one? Did Ford really design the car this way or did they just get it wrong at the expense of us the Customer?

There's been a few cases on here where members complaining about delayed gear changes etc, would just say these boxes are a completely different operating design to conventional auto boxes, these are really a glorified manual box controlled electrically so you may need to adjust your driving style as I had a similar problem with our trucks which use a similar system.

Although I know there little quirks now I still don't like them and for that reason I have a MK3 Titanium 163ps 6 speed manual box.

If the dealer is saying it's behaving how it's suppose to get them to take you out and let them show you how to drive it, please don't be offended by that, I'm not saying your a bad driver you may just need to adapt to the new driving style.

[NRC]

Thanks for your reply Chris I appreciate what you are saying, however having driven Automatics and recently had a Volvo XC70 with the similar 6 speed geartronic auto box I find this car very frustrating as there were no issues with the transmission on the Volvo. No delay engaging gear, it would hold on a hill and kick down and acceleration were always there. Geartronic is very similar to power-shift where it has a sport mode and manual +- selection facility. Like you said its a case of like it or lump it.

 

The car has gotta go.

 

I have just returned from the Local Main Ford Dealership in my area after they tried and tested my new (6 weeks and 3500 miles) Ford Galaxy 163ps. The car was with the Garage due to its inability to accelerate satisfactorily when approaching roundabouts, junctions and overtaking. The car pauses for thought for 2 seconds when the accelerator is pressed and then powers forward. This is very disconcerting and does not instill confidence in the cars ability to actually go. It is very stressful to drive a vehicle not knowing if it is going to go quick enough to get out of a junction or roundabout before another vehicle comes.

 

When attempting to park after driving forward and stopping, there is at least a two second delay before any drive is engaged. After you select reverse gear and if you were performing a 3 point turn, there is also a 2 second gap before forward is engaged. If you chose to press the accelerator before the 2 seconds were up you would just rev the engine and the car would not move in the required direction. When going up a hill in forward gear if you were to stop and try to restart it takes the hill start assist 2 seconds to engage and if you haven't driven off within 2 seconds the hill start assist releases and the vehicle rolls back down the hill. The opposite also happens if you are trying to reverse up an incline, for example to avoid parking too close to your neighbor or a wall. The Vehicle does not hold itself on a hill and it takes 2 seconds before it engages gear so even if you accelerate in reverse it still rolls forward.

 

Selecting sport mode or manually shifting into a lower gear does NOT improve the acceleration as it still takes 2 seconds before the engine springs into life. When going from the flat to a steep incline where a lower gear is required the vehicle sits there revving but not moving as it is in the wrong gear (2 Seconds), then it changes to 1st gear and is overpowered going up the hill.

 

The Ford Dealership have advised me that the car is performing as it was designed and there is nothing wrong with it. There are no software updates available and the five hours they had the car with them today has made no difference to its performance.

 

I wonder who designed this car with a 2 second delay before gears and power are engaged? Why would Ford install an automatic gearbox into a car that rolls the opposite way to the selected gear direction on a hill? Why on earth would ford design and then produce a car as useless as this one? Did Ford really design the car this way or did they just get it wrong at the expense of us the Customer?

There's been a few cases on here where members complaining about delayed gear changes etc, would just say these boxes are a completely different operating design to conventional auto boxes, these are really a glorified manual box controlled electrically so you may need to adjust your driving style as I had a similar problem with our trucks which use a similar system.

Although I know there little quirks now I still don't like them and for that reason I have a MK3 Titanium 163ps 6 speed manual box.

If the dealer is saying it's behaving how it's suppose to get them to take you out and let them show you how to drive it, please don't be offended by that, I'm not saying your a bad driver you may just need to adapt to the new driving style.

[NRC]

Wish I'd of had your car then. There shouldn't be these differences in mass produced cars

 

I also have a 2012 Titanium X 163 Powershift , 6 weeks old and 1200 miles , and havent had any of these issues with mine .

 

The box changes smoothly , response is instant everytime and my hill assist works as it should .

[Squeegy]

I have just booked my galaxy 140 TDCi powershift into the dealers to be checked out. I find it quite hesitant un selecting gear at lower speeds with it surging now and again as a too low a gear has been selected. I also find I get a bit of engine vibration too when pulling away or coasting at lower speeds.

[gh007]

Hi,

 

We have a 2010 163PS powershift, purchased it with 5K on the clock and 7 months old. Its been plagued with this issue since we have owned it, nearly killing my family and friends on two occasions.

I thought it was fixed a little while ago when the dealer discovered that the computer was not receiving a single from the brake sensors indicating the brakes were no longer applied. This did improve things.

 

Today I have heard from my dealer that other models in the Ford range with powershift have the same issue.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks.

[gh007]

Hi,

 

Forgot to add, we also have a Volvo XC60 with the same type of gearbox, its a D5 175PS. As previouslty mentioned about the XC70, we also have no issues with our XC60, never misses a beat. Its even more annoying as this is Fords flagship model.

 

Cheers.

[johnb80]

Theyre a million miles away from a 'glorified manual box'

 

Theyre a dual clutch box, the first clutch gives drive to gears 1,3 & 5, the second clutch to 2, 4 & 6. Theyre very efficient compared to a conventional box both in terms of energy efficiency and in performance (no other box can change gear as quick). Original concept by Volkswagen.