jamesey Posted April 28, 2009 Report Posted April 28, 2009 ive got a droning on the front end ive just had a drive shaft but its still there when i spin the wheels the drivers side feels more notchy than the passenger side , there no play in either of them so i expect its the o/s one , do i have to take the whole leg off to change it like im told or is there a cheats way of doing it , my sharan is a 03 plate thanks Quote
sparky Paul Posted April 29, 2009 Report Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) Virtually impossible without removing the hub carrier, but you can remove the hub carrier without removing the strut. Remove the driveshaft bolt, brake disc, brake caliper, and abs sensor cable, then split the trackrod end and bottom ball joint. Push the driveshaft out of the hub. You then have to undo the pinch bolt holding the hub carrier to the strut - great care is needed here, as the bolt corrodes in the gap, siezes into the hub casting, and may shear off... putting some heat into the casting is the safest way to undo it. Replace the bearing in the usual way, remove circlip and press old bearing out, then press new bearing in and refit new circlip... Driveshaft bolt must be renewed on reassembly, and the pinch bolt too if in poor condition. Edited April 29, 2009 by sparky Paul Quote
jamesey Posted April 29, 2009 Author Report Posted April 29, 2009 Virtually impossible without removing the hub carrier, but you can remove the hub carrier without removing the strut. Remove the driveshaft bolt, brake disc, brake caliper, and abs sensor cable, then split the trackrod end and bottom ball joint. Push the driveshaft out of the hub. You then have to undo the pinch bolt holding the hub carrier to the strut - great care is needed here, as the bolt corrodes in the gap, siezes into the hub casting, and may shear off... putting some heat into the casting is the safest way to undo it. Replace the bearing in the usual way, remove circlip and press old bearing out, then press new bearing in and refit new circlip... Driveshaft bolt must be renewed on reassembly, and the pinch bolt too if in poor condition. cheers it sounds easy , ive just bought a bearing kit from gfs it cost Quote
sparky Paul Posted April 29, 2009 Report Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) cheers it sounds easy It's not too bad, but not the easiest job either. Watch that pinch bolt! The bearing can growl without any play, so feel for any roughness - it's not as easy to determine which side is the problem on the front. Edited April 29, 2009 by sparky Paul Quote
jamesey Posted April 29, 2009 Author Report Posted April 29, 2009 cheers it sounds easy It's not too bad, but not the easiest job either. Watch that pinch bolt! The bearing can growl without any play, so feel for any roughness - it's not as easy to determine which side is the problem on the front.i think its the drivers side as i drive it about 40mph and swerve it sounds more severe as i swerve towards the kerb so its when the weight is on the drivers side , the bearings are only Quote
jamesey Posted May 9, 2009 Author Report Posted May 9, 2009 well ive had my drivers side bearing changed and it still drones what the hell can it be ^_^ it does it at low speeds , more noticable on a smooth road , im going to put the wheels on the back to see if that changes anything , could it be the bearing on the drivers driveshaft???????????what a waste of money the new bearing and labour was :angry: Quote
sparky Paul Posted May 11, 2009 Report Posted May 11, 2009 (edited) At least you've eliminated one thing. I said it earlier, it's not easy to determine where noises are coming from on the front end, and it can be very frustrating as you have found out. Sometimes, you just have to start with the most likely culprit, and carry on until you find it. The fact that the noise varies with the loading on each tyre does tend to point to a wheel bearing though, but even that cannot be guaranteed. Are there any other factors which alter the noise? Ambient temperature? Driving in the wet? How exactly does it alter with road speed? You say it does it at low speeds. Does the noise go away over 40-50mph? When it sounds worse on smooth roads, is the noise actually worse, or is it not being masked by the road noise? Edited May 11, 2009 by sparky Paul Quote
Mirez Posted May 11, 2009 Report Posted May 11, 2009 At least you've eliminated one thing. I said it earlier, it's not easy to determine where noises are coming from on the front end, and it can be very frustrating as you have found out. Sometimes, you just have to start with the most likely culprit, and carry on until you find it. The fact that the noise varies with the loading on each tyre does tend to point to a wheel bearing though, but even that cannot be guaranteed. Are there any other factors which alter the noise? Ambient temperature? Driving in the wet? How exactly does it alter with road speed? You say it does it at low speeds. Does the noise go away over 40-50mph? When it sounds worse on smooth roads, is the noise actually worse, or is it not being masked by the road noise? Poor/budget tyres can lead to all kinds of bearing like noises, mainly when turning or braking. We had some awful ones on when we bought the car and I knocked the guy down as I thought a bearing was on the way out - two quality tyres later and its much quieter so as above, check the obvious first! Quote
jamesey Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Posted May 13, 2009 At least you've eliminated one thing. I said it earlier, it's not easy to determine where noises are coming from on the front end, and it can be very frustrating as you have found out. Sometimes, you just have to start with the most likely culprit, and carry on until you find it. The fact that the noise varies with the loading on each tyre does tend to point to a wheel bearing though, but even that cannot be guaranteed. Are there any other factors which alter the noise? Ambient temperature? Driving in the wet? How exactly does it alter with road speed? You say it does it at low speeds. Does the noise go away over 40-50mph? When it sounds worse on smooth roads, is the noise actually worse, or is it not being masked by the road noise? cheers for the great responces , the noise tend to be around 35 to 60 mph more noticable on smooth roads seems noisier when braking , ive got some non decript tyres on , they were v rated directional tyres on the fron and some extra load tyres on the rear , ive swapped them around but the noise is still there , im having the n/s bearing done next saturday , if not i dont know what to do , i might have to wait till it gets worse , its really anoyying a contiuos drone , ill be asleep driving down to cornwall on the 30th ;) Quote
sparky Paul Posted May 16, 2009 Report Posted May 16, 2009 cheers for the great responces , the noise tend to be around 35 to 60 mph more noticable on smooth roads seems noisier when braking , ive got some non decript tyres on , they were v rated directional tyres on the fron and some extra load tyres on the rear , ive swapped them around but the noise is still there , im having the n/s bearing done next saturday , if not i dont know what to do , i might have to wait till it gets worse , its really anoyying a contiuos drone , ill be asleep driving down to cornwall on the 30th :D It does sound like a wheel bearing... I do hope that fixes it for you. :ph34r: Quote
Lyle Waters Posted July 6, 2009 Report Posted July 6, 2009 At least you've eliminated one thing. I said it earlier, it's not easy to determine where noises are coming from on the front end, and it can be very frustrating as you have found out. Sometimes, you just have to start with the most likely culprit, and carry on until you find it. The fact that the noise varies with the loading on each tyre does tend to point to a wheel bearing though, but even that cannot be guaranteed. Are there any other factors which alter the noise? Ambient temperature? Driving in the wet? How exactly does it alter with road speed? You say it does it at low speeds. Does the noise go away over 40-50mph? When it sounds worse on smooth roads, is the noise actually worse, or is it not being masked by the road noise? cheers for the great responces , the noise tend to be around 35 to 60 mph more noticable on smooth roads seems noisier when braking , ive got some non decript tyres on , they were v rated directional tyres on the fron and some extra load tyres on the rear , ive swapped them around but the noise is still there , im having the n/s bearing done next saturday , if not i dont know what to do , i might have to wait till it gets worse , its really anoyying a contiuos drone , ill be asleep driving down to cornwall on the 30th :lol: Is it fixed? I'm getting the same but my mate rekons the hub requires repacing @ Quote
Bigjeeze Posted July 6, 2009 Report Posted July 6, 2009 ive got a droning on the front end ive just had a drive shaft but its still there when i spin the wheels the drivers side feels more notchy than the passenger side , there no play in either of them so i expect its the o/s one , do i have to take the whole leg off to change it like im told or is there a cheats way of doing it , my sharan is a 03 plate thanks KIck the Missus out of the car!!! Quote
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