mumof4 Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 I did look at your link and you are correct that sites do copy each other if the information is relevant to them aswell as the site they got the info from. With the diverse weather britain experiences, who is to say that this winter will or will not be colder than previous ones?sometimes we have mild winters, sometimes we do not.But if it goes to the extreme and becomes very cold then is the fuel we get here equipped to cope?are our cars equipped to cope? Having lived in the shetlands and by god it can get very cold there, it was a common sight to see cars abandoned on the side of the road as they gave up the ghost in the cold weather.. it doesnt hurt to be prepared for any eventuality.Taking precautions means that any problems can be dealt with as soon as they present themselves or even before they occurr. Yes the battery is important, even cardboard is an insulator, and it wont hurt to try and protect your car from the cold.
fosterman Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 The MPG debate / argument is one which always amazes me because of the numerous variables. Therefore, I will not be drawn into making any comment either positive or negative. However, I have found a site which clearly gives not one jot about mpg, try BATHURST 2007 on a search engine and have a look at the Australian V8 supercars, and be grateful its not your pocket paying their fuel bill ( and in some cases repair bill ) !!!! Enjoy.
big_kev Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 Is it just coincidence or is it mainly flatlanders getting this good (60mpg+ ). Anyone who knows what a hill looks like getting anywhere near this.
seatkid Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 And i will take it, just wondering what type of heating to use in my double garage? i have a calor gas fire, but clearly that is not a good cost effective way to heat my garage every night through the winter as the better mpg i will get in the first 10 minutes would not cover the cost of keeping the garage warm all night ! sound advice! HELLO GIO! SURPRISED TO SEE YOU HERE! :D Some of us have attached/integral garages. Some of us have well insulated garages that driving a hot engined car into will keep warm for several hours. Some even have both! But I accept I know nothing and I bow to your superior knowledge on all aspects of our beloved galaxies. :25: Is it just coincidence or is it mainly flatlanders getting this good (60mpg+ ).Dare I suggest that for every hill you climb up, you're likely to come down another? :D
big_kev Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 HELLO GIO! SURPRISED TO SEE YOU HERE! :D Naughty ;) Dare I suggest that for every hill you climb up, you're likely to come down another? :D If only it worked that way....nope....flatland is more economical. :25:
mrchipz Posted October 15, 2007 Author Report Posted October 15, 2007 Crikey! Calm down people its only a forum. Will think twice before starting a new thread next time.
gregers Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 dont worry mrchips every few months someone starts a thread about mpg/petrol versus diesel and all hell breaks out,very funny to see how the debate ends up :25:
mumof4 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 Crikey! Calm down people its only a forum. Will think twice before starting a new thread next time. MPG gets to be very heated sometimes.......but its all in good fun trying to prove each other wrong :D Tyre debates can go the same way aswell..there you go, ask about tyres... :D :25: Please don't think twice before starting a new thread, just do it and see how it runs....can be quite interesting sometimes ;) dont worry mrchips every few months someone starts a thread about mpg/petrol versus diesel and all hell breaks out,very funny to see how the debate ends up :D few months??try few weeks :D Mind, last one was VERY interesting.
adrianf. Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 All this talk about winter and heated garages has got me wondering if i am in a different country. We dont even know what cold is in this country. Im lucky and have a nice big double garage but the car never gets put in it any time of the year. Too cold in the mornings to mess about opening it up. :unsure:
mumof4 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 All this talk about winter and heated garages has got me wondering if i am in a different country. Different planet maybe :unsure: :unsure:
big_kev Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 All this talk about winter and heated garages has got me wondering if i am in a different country. Different planet maybe :40: :unsure: ............ :unsure:
gio Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) And i will take it, just wondering what type of heating to use in my double garage? i have a calor gas fire, but clearly that is not a good cost effective way to heat my garage every night through the winter as the better mpg i will get in the first 10 minutes would not cover the cost of keeping the garage warm all night ! sound advice! HELLO GIO! SURPRISED TO SEE YOU HERE! :40: Some of us have attached/integral garages. Some of us have well insulated garages that driving a hot engined car into will keep warm for several hours. Some even have both! But I accept I know nothing and I bow to your superior knowledge on all aspects of our beloved galaxies. :unsure: why are you surprised? you invited me,with your sarcastic post that was clearly aimed at me!But i am not surprised that you have a insulated garage,just surprised you didn't go the full hog and mention you have slolar panels as well! As to you sarki reply " bowing to my superior knowledge" lets get this bit straight, it really is irrelevant what garage you have,you offered others advice as to keeping their garage warm ! not a cost saver and frankly all it does is cost energy, that you will not gey back with a slighly warmer car for the first ten minutes of driving. based on price of keeping garage warm v fuel saving over 10 minutes. although i did note you did say ten miles, whats that 15 minutes driving? Well there you are if you drove the car from start up properly, then it would be warm in 10 minutes rather than the 15 it takes you! now then you would make a small saving! :unsure: Edited October 16, 2007 by mumof4
big_kev Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 Well there you are if you drove the car from start up properly, then it would be warm in 10 minutes rather than the 15 it takes you! now then you would make a small saving! :unsure: 15 minutes.....at SK's economical driving speed he would still be in his driveway.... :unsure:
mumof4 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 garage does not have to be heated, a garage will keep frost/snow/ice off the car hence the car wont be as cold as it is outside of a garage.A normal bog standard garage will suffice. <sigh>
gio Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 garage does not have to be heated, a garage will keep frost/snow/ice off the car hence the car wont be as cold as it is outside of a garage.A normal bog standard garage will suffice. <sigh> But it is still a normal cold engine and therefore will not be any nearer to its proper running temp.It will however be easier to start as there maybe no need for the glow plugs to work overtime or the possibility of the battery under performing,but never the less a cold engine still. And remember this was a tip for better economy in the first 10 miles nothing else.
MadBaz Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 Well I don't care, I don't have a garage or problems starting, and There's plenty of hills round here which make the petrol engine work hard therefore the heater is like a furnace after a very short while, I have no booster to create its own fog bank every time it gets a little nippy and I average 25 mpg whether i's hot/cold/uphill/down dale/with missus kids & dog/by my lonesome/tesco petrol/BP! ps when I get to work I leave my van idling for 20 minutes to warm up, therefore contributing to global warming and making the enviroment more pleasant for all of us!
mrchipz Posted October 16, 2007 Author Report Posted October 16, 2007 25 mpg! Ouch! Hope u don't have far to go.... :unsure:
Tommie1 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 The hilly landscape can have very little influence when the hills are not too steep. If you can 'idle' them down, without braking influence should be limited. Of course, you do not climb them in 2nd gear at 4000 revs. When the hill becomes a mountain, and during several miles, you need to reduce speed by hitting the brakes, or going down in gear, then of course there is energy wasted and mpg will go down. I experienced with one of my previous cars that on a slightly accidented landscape, the mpg went up. Either I used the engine at about maximum torque, but not high rev's, either I was idling (but leaving the gear in!). This brings the engine in situations where it often runs at high efficiency. Generally, the slowest speed in the highest gear will bring the highest mpg.
Sher Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 We dont even know what cold is in this country. Speak for yourself adrienf. The South West of England enjoys a far milder climate than the rest of the UK. (Perhaps apart from Pembrokshire?) I've not read the whole of this topic but the answer is of course the introduction of a Time operated Immersion heater in the lower part of the water pipework. The small amount of energy used here, perhaps from Non fossil fuel sources, will give big savings in fuel usage and in comfort. These used to be available from Kenlowe but I am fairly sure that our Continental friends in Scandinavia make use of something similar. In parts of Canada I believe that parking places are sometimes equiped with Electrical plugs so that your car which is fitted with Fuel heater etc will be able to start when you return. Now that is cold!
28i Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 I thought I was doing well getting 600 miles from a tank in my Mondeo, how much does it cost to fill up after 900+ miles ? (I dont have a Galaxy yet)
Rusty Nail Posted October 17, 2007 Report Posted October 17, 2007 You could always buy and install an engine pre-heater to keep your wedge nosed brick elephant warm??? I consider less than 40mpg around the local area poor - the wife manages 34 with her lead foot. We tend to take the kids to school (3 miles each way) go shopping (5 miles EW) and other short trips. On a run to Weymouth the other week I managed 48mpg - well happy. The Galaxy is a brilliant tool, brilliant flexabillity (not many cars you can carry 3M lengths of materials inside or as much rubbish as you want), great fuel economy, comfortable and so on and so on I think I may buy one - well I would if I didn't already have one ;)
mrchipz Posted October 17, 2007 Author Report Posted October 17, 2007 Even though my old gal is doin just fine, I wouldn't mind a newer one! ;)
elize Posted October 17, 2007 Report Posted October 17, 2007 Hi Me and my other half regularly compete to see who can get the best mpg out of our gal (sad I know). Constantly amazed by ours (diesel 99reg). We normally average around 53 on most journeys though we have had it up to the 70s with a fair bit of coasting. My main arguement for not buying the gal was worries over fuel consumption upgrading from a very economical diesel escort. I am happy to of been proved wrong.Definately have the last laugh on all those squeezed into expensive petrol guzzling saloons. A friend has gone from a diesel gal to a very posh vauxhall vectra petrol saloon with three kids and two dogs. She is getting an average 28 mpg!!!! The husband choose the car and he's not very popular now. Having the mpg on the dash has definately changed the way I drive. I can think of a lot better things to spend money on than fuel especially with the latest 2p stealth tax "but that's another rant for another day".
gio Posted October 17, 2007 Report Posted October 17, 2007 Hi Me and my other half regularly compete to see who can get the best mpg out of our gal (sad I know). Constantly amazed by ours (diesel 99reg). We normally average around 53 on most journeys though we have had it up to the 70s with a fair bit of coasting. My main arguement for not buying the gal was worries over fuel consumption upgrading from a very economical diesel escort. I am happy to of been proved wrong.Definately have the last laugh on all those squeezed into expensive petrol guzzling saloons. A friend has gone from a diesel gal to a very posh vauxhall vectra petrol saloon with three kids and two dogs. She is getting an average 28 mpg!!!! The husband choose the car and he's not very popular now. Having the mpg on the dash has definately changed the way I drive. I can think of a lot better things to spend money on than fuel especially with the latest 2p stealth tax "but that's another rant for another day". i am indeed glad you are happy with your galaxy,i bought mine as a towcar but it has proved itself to be a decent vehicle. "last laugh" not sure about that bit, i assume those who have bought expensive gas guzzlers did so because they could and they can afford to run them too. I only get around low 40s mpg out of my galaxy 50mpg was achieved over a 500 mile run through italy austria germany to fill up point in luxemburg,which i was not totally happy with given that the same run took 1.5 hours less in my other car whilst still achieving over 50 mpg. My point is and has always been if you use the same driving style that some use to get pretty good mpg out of their galaxies and apply them to other cars,then the mpg of the galaxy would be pretty good,but not that good. ie, i get low 40ishmpg out of the galaxy on my regular run.If i use the wifes punto[petrol] and it take my the same time to get there i get mid 40mpg whilst using cheaper fuel.
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