Specification, Electric Problems - Window Mki

[Gierma]

Hi

I'm exploring my new - old Gal and after going through lot of posts...

My driver's window do not open. I know it might be the wires broken, but... when I press the buttom I can hear the motor. It sound like it wanted to roll, but nothing happens. Wonder, if it means the motor is faulty and how to check it? There is a plug (rather large as for not so complicated thing as window motor) with lot of connectors, which one should I connect to +/- to check it? The mirrors and left passenger window works perfectly fine.

Also... I do not know if I have/should have central locking. This might be broken as well or - I don't have one. How many masters is there in Gal - one or two? If it was only one - it might mean it is broken :)

[mumof4]

Is the window clamps still attached to the runners??..as the window is held still be two clamps at the bottom of it and these go up and down the runners....sometimes the cable can become a bit worn or even snapped..if you can hear the motor..then power is getting to it.Id check inside the door by taking the door card off to see if anything untoward is going on.

 

Do you have a remote key??or just a normal key?

[Gierma]

What clamps should I be looking for? Are they on the bottom of the window attached to the runner? I have no idea how to fix it, though there are some runners with motors on Ebay finishing today so wonder if I should buy it :)

I have non remote key with the led-torch. On the side of the car there is a G badge, which would mean, I suppose GHIA version. I have air con, electric front windows and mirrors, electric sunroof, no fog lamps.

 

The door card is off now, and I have no idea how to check manually whetherthe window works or not.

There are wires coming to the inside of the lock mechanism: 3 to the top of it, quite a few to the bottom, there is also a red led on the top of the doorcard, so I think the central locking should be onboard.

The other annoying thing is with the rear door - every time I have to open it with a key. Maybe this is also because of faulty central locking?

[mumof4]

If it is a ghia..the badge will say GHIA on it..

 

On the bottom of the window you will see that the glass is resting in 2 square type clamps..one at either end.....the clamps are attached to the regulater..(runners).There is silver wire cable that runs up and down the regulator and it is criss crossed in the middle..(the criss cross is covered.)

 

This wire that goes up and down can break/chaff..or get tangled up if too slack.In this pic you can see one of the clamps on the bottom left of the regulator..

 

Now the motor itself is behind the blue panel on the top right.Please bear in mind that mine was a MKII Ghia.

 

What you need to do is check that all connections are secure and try and open the window and see what happens then let us know..if the motor is working then it has to be something else..

 

Please also bear in mind..that when a regulators wires unravel..break...it can be nigh on impossible to sort out as i found out!.You have to get it all just right if they unravel and get the tension right and the clamps in the right place..

 

Just see what happens when you try and open the window electrically and let us know.

 

 

For the central locking to work remotely you will need a remote fob.

[Gierma]

I unscrew the four screws keeping the whole mechanizm. The tension of the wires I think is allright, but when I lowered the mechanism and lowered the tension checked the motor. It buzzzes, but nothing happens. So I suppose the motor is dead.

 

Central locking in my car doesn't work at all, that's why I wonder if I have it at all. And if yes - what could have broken. Unless both problems are connected somehow and motor doesn't work because there's something wrong with wiring in the central locking ;)

[mumof4]

Did the wires try to move though???..did it look as if there was a slight movement???.

If a motor is gone it wont/shouldnt make any noise at all..mine didnt when mine went.

 

The wires can kink as they go round the cog at the top if the wire is out of alignment some way or pops out of the gap it goes through at the top in the cog.You need to see if there is the slightest bit of movement in the wires or the clamps as they try to move.

 

As for central locking....do you have a fob that has a button on it to lock/unlock the doors??

 

If you do it may need reprogramming..there is a FAQ for this...

 

Or the battery may be dead in it...

 

Or the chip inside may have been lost.

[Gierma]

There was not a slightest move at all of the wires, when i tried to open/close the window.

 

The central locking should lock/unlock all locks in the car even when I only use the key in the lock. It does not happen, that;s why I wonder if the C/L is fitted - is there one or two masters? If there are two - I should be able to open the locks using passenger one as well.

There is something under passenger seat - and I think this is central locking box.

[mumof4]

Oh crumbs....wondering if the car has suffered a flooded footwell at some point?????if soooooo..that could be the problem.

[MadBaz]

Hi Gierna and welcome,

 

The central locking has 3 masters Front doors and boot, and 3 slaves rear doors and fuel cap.

Problems arise when the barrels of the front doors break, a paddle shaped bit of metal that interfaces with the lock mechanism, Broken wiring in the gaiter of the drivers door and boot, it can happen with the passenger door but because its typically not used as much as the drivers this is rare, although I'm sure someone will correct me! Check the fuse, iirc its no30 it should be ABOVE the relays to the left of the fuse box. If the module has had a bath you could take it out and stick it on a radiator overnight, not tried this, but it works with my mobile phone when her indoors doesn't check my pockets :angry:

Does the door led come on continuously for about 3 seconds as you start the car but doesn't flash at any other time?

As for the window I suspect the wiring in the gaiter (given the probs with c/l) you could disconnect the mutlplug for about 30 seconds when the window is fully closed and see if that resets the motor, Autoglass taught me that, handy when a windows starts to become sluggish. not much use though if wiring broken ;)

 

Oh and welcome to the madhouse.

Edited August 12, 2007 by MADBAZ

[Gierma]

THX MADBAZ

I checked the fuses, it seems the 30 was empty and the fuse was next to it. So fitted to 30 and.. central locking works (but not on rear driver side door) and yes, the led came on for about 3 secs. But also passenger window came down and didn't work at all when I wanted to shut it. Passenger window doesn't work at all, no matter fuse on or off. The fuse now is removed, and passenger window operates normally.

I disconnected the multiplug on window motor earlier for more then a minute, but this didn't fix the problem. If somebody knew how to power the motor straight with 12V I would check if it works at all.

Is the module under the passenger seat? I checked it and there seems to be no signs of water at all. If I remove it - can the car be still driven? How much does it cost on Ebay?

 

Thanks a lot for all help :rolleyes: