Networking

[baz69]

can anybody tell me what i need to run another couple of computers upstairs, to run off my original broadband, which by the way is cable broadband supplied by ntl, i not over keen on the wireless side because of security side of things and i dont know how to make it secure ,i have a friend that comes round with his laptop andhe gets on the internet using someone elses interenet , so im looking to set a wired networkwork up but ive been that i need slightly different stuff as ive got cable broadband, all i know is that i need a router of some kind ,any help anyone can give will be greatly appreciated

[NikpV]

you're correct you need a cable modem/router not an adsl modem/router (common enough) - most come with 3/4 ethernet ports which you can hardwire your computers to.

 

 

Wireless need not be too insecure - depending on your location/type and size of dwelling - I am aware that the security that I run (WEP + MAC filtering) is not the most secure but my wireless signal does not leak to other places so although the wp key could be broken and the mac address spoofed its not really likely. It's not as fast as gigabit or 100mbit wired but its plenty fast enough (54g) and measns my pda gets a connection all around the house

[baz69]

thanks for the reply nik , not that i understand all the technical terms , i thought as i had ntl cable broadband i only needed a router and not a modem/router but as i said i dont know, alsio a rough idea of cost would be good what wires would i need to run upstairs

[NikpV]

its one box (I have adsl so not 100% on the terms) but it takes the input from your ntl box and outputs to ethernet when the mil wanted her ntl connection as a wireless one we just went down pc world or staples (mate went to tesco) an just picked up one for an ntl cable connection ;)

[baz69]

will this do the job then nik ,and any idea what leads i need to go up stairs,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...p;rd=1&rd=1

[NikpV]

assuming you have a normal rj45 (ethernet connection) from your NTL box - get a cable and check, If it were me I would be pulling cat5/6 ethernet cable through cavities underfloors to network points terminated by plates upstair s ;) ^_^

 

 

shakes head - no If this were me I would be installing a wireless router sitting down and having a beer ;) ;) ;)

[Guest Cepheus]

If you have your internet supplied through your TV set top box (STB) then your modem is inside your STB and you therefore need just a wired, cable compatible router to split your internet connection to more than one computer.

 

If you receive your internet to a separate cable modem then I would advise buying the same cable compatible router and connecting your modem to the router. If you buy a combined modem and router, ntl will not provide support for any internet faults you may get unless you re-install your ntl supplied cable modem and the fault remains.

 

The modem connects to the input port on the back of the router via an RJ45 ethernet cable, and then each connected computer is connected to the output ports on the back of the router via RJ45 ethernet cable again. The other end of the cables connects into another RJ45 ethernet port on your ethernet, or LAN card which is usually at the back of your PC where all the other leads connect on. There are usually 4 output ports on most routers these days.

 

Baz, the one you linked to on ebay should work just fine. You'll just need a few miles of ethernet cable, and a million cable grips to wire it all over the house!

[Guest Cepheus]

If it were me I would be pulling cat5/6 ethernet cable through cavities underfloors to network points terminated by plates upstairs :blink: :ph34r:

 

shakes head - no If this were me I would be installing a wireless router sitting down and having a beer :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:

 

I have both, just incase the wireless goes down! :ph34r:

[Guest MATT jr]

...weve got a wireless belkin modem/router - although a pain in the backside to set up, its proven to be reliable!

 

not one single problem! (ooo is that tempting Murphy's law or what!)

 

MJR :ph34r:

[MadBaz]

Don't go for belkin a lot of thier stuff is iffy at the mo, linksys is fine. try the WRT54G here It'll do your wired network and if you eventually go wireless it'll do that too. The're fairly easy to set up and reliable.

[El Dingo]

I'd recommend Netgear and Linksys - not Belkin (sorry MattJr.) as I had loads of trouble with Belkin.

 

If you are *determined* to hardwire, try a Netgear RP614 - that's a DSL router that works with the free-standing NTL Broadband modem. Best price around

[NikpV]

I would not recommend Belkin - the only part of our wireless/wired network which is flakey is the belkin pci card in one of the kids desktop (rest is all smc, linksys, dlink and whatever the wii uses an whatever the hx4700 pda uses)