roly1977 Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 :lol: hiya everybody today ive noticed that my clutch is making a noise but when i depress the pedal the noise goes away does this sound like the clutch or something else your help will be gratefully recieved its done 171000 Quote
morticiaskeeper Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 Sounds like a noisy clutch release bearing. Keep going with it until it gets worse. Had a Pug 307 that did that for 100k miles from new Quote
roly1977 Posted November 1, 2006 Author Report Posted November 1, 2006 spoke to someone from my clutch today they say it sounds like a gearbox bearing ive read that mr clutch should be avoided Quote
Guest VR6! Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 spoke to someone from my clutch today they say it sounds like a gearbox bearing ive read that mr clutch should be avoided yep avoid them like the plague, unless your going to watch over them and check that all the parts they use are new and not reconditioned parts :lol: and the guy doing the job has a clue to what he's doing! apart from that I lurve Mr Clutch Quote
Smilge Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 Definately clutch release bearing a bit dry ... easy on a rear wheel drive motor but not on this beast. I think I would put up with it unless it gets worse like you say. :lol: Quote
MadBaz Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 I changed mine last week, on the road!!! defo a job for a garage, just make sure they replace what their supposed to, drive shaft bolts, drive shaft seals, etc. Local garage quoted me Quote
tim-spam Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 when i depress the pedal the noise goes away ...... its done 171000This sounds more like an input shaft bearing. If it was the clutch release bearing, I would expect the noise to get worse when you depress the clutch pedal. As it is, when the clutch is engaged, the input shaft is turning, but when you depress the clutch pedal, the drive to the input shaft is disengaged, and it stops turning. By the way, what sort of noise is it? Quote
roly1977 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Posted November 2, 2006 thanks for replys so far its like a rattle noise it goes as soon as the pedal is pushed in sometimes as you come up on the pedal it can be really noisey loud rattle :lol: Quote
tim-spam Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 That sounds like the gearbox input shaft. It could also conceivably be the clutch itself or the dual mass flywheel. It it's not causing too much of a problem, and the car drives well, I would tend to leave it to see if it gets much worse. Quote
Smilge Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 when i depress the pedal the noise goes away ...... its done 171000This sounds more like an input shaft bearing. If it was the clutch release bearing, I would expect the noise to get worse when you depress the clutch pedal. As it is, when the clutch is engaged, the input shaft is turning, but when you depress the clutch pedal, the drive to the input shaft is disengaged, and it stops turning. By the way, what sort of noise is it? A good check to confirm this would be to see if it makes the same noise when depressing the clutch with neutral selected. If it does then I would confirm the input shaft bearing as the idler gear is still turning whether or not the car is in gear or not. Quote
roly1977 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Posted November 2, 2006 this noise is when car is in neutral havent tried it in any gears yet if it is the gearbox input shaft is this expensive to put right Quote
Smilge Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 this noise is when car is in neutral havent tried it in any gears yet if it is the gearbox input shaft is this expensive to put right If it is this Roly then it will be expensive .... I had a similar problem on a Sierra where the input shaft bearing had completely collapsed and made changing gear very difficult and extremely "rattly". At the start I thought it was just the the release bearing, which is a quick job once you've got to it. The problem was getting to it! Prop shaft off, bell housing and gearbox off ... The thing was, although this was a relatively simple job, I found the input shaft to the gearbox flapping about due to the bearing failure. This meant stripping the gearbox completely just to get access to a Quote
tim-spam Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 If the input shaft bearing is completely U/S, there will be considerable noise when driving, and this noise will be proportional to the engine speed. If it's just rattling at idle when in neutral, I wouldn't worry too much - there is, after all, a fair bit of torsional vibration on a diesel, and yours has covered a fair mileage. There is an outside chance that the vibration damper, which is part of the crank pulley which drives the alternator belt, is not doing its job properly - it's worth a look anyway. The other slight possiblilty is the clutch pressure plate itself - if the release mechanism has loosened over time, this may rattle, and when pressed by the cluch release bearing, the rattle would stop. To test this, try pressing the clutch lightly (but without disengaging it), and if the noise disappears, this is the most likely culprit. Quote
roly1977 Posted December 5, 2006 Author Report Posted December 5, 2006 couldnt put up with the noise anymore had it booked in to do clutch when apart told me dual mass flywheel was seized up had both clutch and flywheel done Quote
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