Chip Fat?

[funbus]

anyone (with a tdi!!) ever tried using chip fat in their tank? Just been watchin fifth gear and he drove coast to coast in an old diesel merc just using chip fat. What damage would it do long term if any??

 

PS. My dad owns a chip shop :)

[tim-spam]

Mt wife's got an old diesel Merc.................

[teresa]

;) im not sure :) but i think you have to change some of the valves or rubber seals as the chip fat can dry them out after a while

[sepulchrave]

My wife's got an old chip pan.............

 

 

 

:)

[anadin]

;) my wifes fat ;) :)

[Vanbursta]

My wifes fat AND looks like and old chip pan! ;) :)

[Guest MATT jr]

i dont think you can run a PD engine on chip fat, older engines yeh - although if you get caught...

 

MJR

[Guest gooner52]

your wife said your fat like a old fisk cake

 

 

;) :) B) :) ;) ;) :lol: ;)

[Bigjeeze]

anyone (with a tdi!!) ever tried using chip fat in their tank? Just been watchin fifth gear and he drove coast to coast in an old diesel merc just using chip fat. What damage would it do long term if any??

 

PS. My dad owns a chip shop :)

 

 

On a slightly more serious note - Do a search - this subject has been covered fairly recently - Look for Bio Diesels.

[MadBaz]

My mate did it with his Shogun 2001 model, mixing veg oil with ethonol, worked fine, but the smell....... :rolleyes:

[wood73]

my uncle runs his 2002 vw bora tdi on veggie oil, he buys it from lidl in 3 litre bottles and pours it straight in, he has done for about 2 years, never had a problem, just changes fuel filter regularly, i think he mixes it with diesel, but not sure exactly.

when i see him ill ask him.

[Grumpy]

Some interesting links

 

http://www.ravenfamily.org/andyg/vegoil.htm

http://www.bio-power.co.uk/

 

 

I havent tried it yet but my Xantia is fairly worthless now so I might give it a go.

[Andrew T]

Some interesting links

 

http://www.ravenfamily.org/andyg/vegoil.htm

http://www.bio-power.co.uk/

 

 

I havent tried it yet but my Xantia is fairly worthless now so I might give it a go.

 

I used to be a member of a Citroen Smartgroup on Yahoo which had a long running thread on this. The Xantia could be fitted with either Bosch or Lucas injection pumps, and only one of them would accept Chip fat. I can't remember which one though. I also recall that when Top Gear tried this a few years ago on an old Volvo 740 Diesel they had to add a bit of Ethanol (or summit) to the mixture.

[Smilge]

I'd try it in mine but the fumes would end up making me feel hungry. Anyway my wife isn't fat, nor does she look like an old fisk cake .... but she does do wicked gravy .... I wonder if the motor would run on gravy???

[Guest HairyPlateEater]

I'd try it in mine but the fumes would end up making me feel hungry. Anyway my wife isn't fat, nor does she look like an old fisk cake .... but she does do wicked gravy .... I wonder if the motor would run on gravy???

 

...Searches Google for "Ford Galaxy Ahh Bisto Conversion ....." :blink:

[Guest Grubber]

a friend of mine runs his peugot on the lidl oil as well ............. he mixs his with some diesil though but theres no loss of power and the smell isn't that bad .......... he did say though that new engines may not take it ........... something to do with lamda sensors .......... me thinks ...... :blink:

[Smilge]

mmmmm....Roast Lambda and bisto gravy.... :lol:

[romseygalaxy]

Oooooh, Fifth Gear...... what a crap program.

 

:lol:

[cos 4x4]

have been using cooking oil mixed fifty fifty with diesel for months now with no change in performance at all and saving me a fortune as well to boot specially when the figures speak for themselves 3ltr oil in tescos

[funbus]

have been using cooking oil mixed fifty fifty with diesel

 

this is what i am thinking of doing - don't think it can do much harm if mixed like this. As long as you change fuel filter (a lot more) regularly.

 

I hope you are paying your customs and excise duty :rolleyes:

[burundi]

I've been doing this for a while now as well. 50/50 is the most i have run, I usually do about 1 third veg oil (rapeseed is one of the best apparently) and 2 thirds diesel.

 

It runs a bit sluggish and acceleration is down a bit (it takes an ice age to get to 70 instead of just a millenia now) but not so bad that I am not going to stop doing it.

 

It's not illegal to use like red diesel is, so there are no issues if you get stopped and your tank dipped. It is a self regulating process, you are supposed to fill out the customs and excise fuel form yourself and send it off with payment for the vat on the fuel you have used.

 

The Police and C&E are not really too concerned about people using veg oil as it will light up the dash on most later models and cause all sorts of problems. It's only really suitable for use on older models like mine. (96 Sharan tdi) that use only the finest 1950's tractor technology.

 

Referencing an earlier post I think it will be the Bosch pumps that can cope with veg oil, some Lucas pumps have problems pumping diesel, never mind anything more viscous. :wacko:

[funbus]

The Police and C&E are not really too concerned about people using veg oil as it will light up the dash on most later models and cause all sorts of problems. It's only really suitable for use on older models like mine. (96 Sharan tdi) that use only the finest 1950's tractor technology.

 

Referencing an earlier post I think it will be the Bosch pumps that can cope with veg oil, some Lucas pumps have problems pumping diesel, never mind anything more viscous. :wacko:

 

OK, so what pump is in a '51 tdi 115ps? I bet its the Lucas isnt it, as they sound cheaper and shoddier! Anyone??

[widu13]

I've used a 33% mix in my '03 130 for a few months now. The PD engine, from an internet search; is really rated as a Straight Veg Oil (SVO) user. I get it from the cash and carry for under 50p a litre and I've registered with Customs and Excise and pay 28 ppl for the 7 litres or so I use per month ^_^ . If I'm dipped I'm legal with C&E paperwork confirming I am a registered fuel supplier. The send you a form to send in each month with your remittance, however they themselves are proposing to drop the taxing of it this summer, so it'll be 50 ppl.

 

A search of the internet will reveal that (almost) all recognise the fact that diesels run better and cleaner with lower emissions (proven on MOT tests) on a percentage mix of SVO or straight boidiesel (refined cooking oil). Do you know for instance that the Diesel engine was invented and designed (and did run on) peanut oil? The petrochem companies quickly developed a Dino fuel as then, it was cheaper...it still is but the taxes aren't :rolleyes: No mods are required but as it is slightly thicker than diesel before being warmed by the engine I won't go more than the 33% mix.

 

It smells better, seems smoother, same economy but as it cleans out the rubbish from the tank and lines 2 fuel filter changes a year may be prudent, but as we all know they are a doddle anyway.

 

HTH.

[Dave-G]

The Police and C&E are not really too concerned about people using veg oil as it will light up the dash on most later models and cause all sorts of problems. It's only really suitable for use on older models like mine. (96 Sharan tdi) that use only the finest 1950's tractor technology.

 

Referencing an earlier post I think it will be the Bosch pumps that can cope with veg oil, some Lucas pumps have problems pumping diesel, never mind anything more viscous. :rolleyes:

 

OK, so what pump is in a '51 tdi 115ps? I bet its the Lucas isnt it, as they sound cheaper and shoddier! Anyone??

 

Not got a pump if you look. It has a common fuel supply to the injectors at about 1050 bar pressure. They are commanded to fire by electric pulses from the ECU via a wiring loom in the cylinder head. expect severe consequences from interfering with the fuel viscosity, spray pattern and burn rate etc - not to mention it cocking up your auxilliary heater.

 

Those who have a mind - research the engine by Googling "pumpe Duce" (sp) engine

[sanjsanj]

Aren't the guys in

video using the same tdi MK1/2 engine as us?

 

PS , look at how amazed they are at a figure of 50 MPG :ph34r: B) tut tut

 

I'd really love to do this.