sanjsanj Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 I would like to enquire about these gadgets and was wondering whether there's someone out there with extensive knowledge on this topic.....anyone know alot about these things? Quote
Bigjeeze Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 I would like to enquire about these gadgets and was wondering whether there's someone out there with extensive knowledge on this topic.....anyone know alot about these things? \Don't speed = problem goes away!!!! Saves you a lot of money and heartache. Try the Highway code - @ 3!.50 it's a lot cheaper than a Quote
baz69 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 so easy to be a little over speed limit these days, radar detectors are handy as a reminder,especially how sneaky the police are getting, imo Quote
mumof4 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Posted August 1, 2006 I would like to enquire about these gadgets and was wondering whether there's someone out there with extensive knowledge on this topic.....anyone know alot about these things? \Don't speed = problem goes away!!!! Saves you a lot of money and heartache. Try the Highway code - @ 3!.50 it's a lot cheaper than a Quote
morticiaskeeper Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 I honestly don't believe anyone when they say they never speed Buy a satnav system then sign up for speed camera updates - I use pocketgpsworld at Quote
Grumpy Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 I would second the sat-nav approach. That way you get a device that will do exactly what the GPS camera warning devices will plus it ends any navigation arguments with SWMBO, also if it is based on a PDA you get the benefits of that as well. A sat-nav doesnt cost much more than a GPS speed camera device. Note that whereas devices that detect speed traps are/will be banned, GPS systems wont (yet!), also some speed trap detectors also have the facility to detect laser traps, however if it can detect the laser then the laser has just clocked you so not much point really! Its true that to avoid getting caught speeding a good solution is not to speed , but who can honestly say they have never broken the speed limit or have never approached a speed camera and wasnt quite sure what the limit actually was? The number of cars I have seen brake sharply for a camera and then crawl past at just under 30MPH in a 40 limit is incredible/frustrating. Quote
purplemadboy Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 mumof4 and bigj...buy a ticket to the real world Quote
mumof4 Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 mumof4 and bigj...buy a ticket to the real world The real world where there are big bad men are ready to eat you up?????!! :angry: I am in the real world..yes i do speed, yes i slow down for speed cameras just like every other bugger on the road...but i dont speed when i have the kids in the car during the day..it is not worth the risk.... And to be honest..in this day and age, considering the numptys that are allowed on our roads id rather stay in cuckoo land than "buy a ticket to the real world". Quote
sanjsanj Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Posted August 2, 2006 i myself have a satnav with the POI's on it from pockectgpsworld....its my uncle who wants it...I told him he can get something like what i have but he said "i want something that tells me about every camera", aka even those lasers that the police use....I told him ok, lemme do my research so here I am! :angry: the database from pocketgps does has quite a few false alerts and thats something he would definitely wouldn't want (it also doesn't cover the police speed check areas) i was looking the the 'new road angel' and underneath the price tag it said first six months of updates are free so I ask 'em if you've got a laser detector the surely you wouldn't need to update it, he says:the updates are for static camerasthe laser detector is for the laser guns used by police i.e non static camerasbut he also say that the police are only allowed to speed check in designated areasif the above is true then you can easily add those areas as POI's on the satnav and then there's no need for a laser detector right?also, what happens when there's an unmarked police car behind you with one of those cameras (just like in road wars) do they use lasers or does it show the speed of the police car?the halfords guy also said the 360 degree laser detector has about one second to tell you that someones fired a laser on you and by that time its too late....also, how can it be 360 degree detection? if its fitted to the windscreen theb there's the all the pillars and the seats blocking its view, i highly doubt it can do 360 degrees... Quote
Bigjeeze Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 mumof4 and bigj...buy a ticket to the real world My current Galaxy has 97k on the clock ( My wifes 130K of which I did 118k and another 85k on one in between) - I have done all of those miles - I have broken the speed limit but no longer do so. I was caught accidentally speeding ( I accelerated up a hill) and was clocked at 35mph in a 30mph zone - I was given the choice of a fine and points or to attend a police course (cost the same as the fine) . I attended - it was very good and I now no longer speed if I can help it. I am not holier than thou I will inevitably speed whether by design or accident - All I am saying is that it is better not to. Sanjsanj' later post covers the subject well, You can't see them all before they see you - you can't always see the undercover police car - so ther solution if you want a clean licence is observation: of the speed limit, the road conditions, and your surroundings. I have done extensive trials with speed over time on differing journeys and the amount of time you save by speeding is rarely worth the effort - Over a 100 mile journey you can rarely better the journey time by more than 10 mins and at that distance it's neither here nor there. So you do what you have to do and I'll probably be behind you!! :ph34r: NB It might profit you to look up my quotation below!! ;) Quote
Guest BagPuss Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 i myself have a satnav with the POI's on it from pockectgpsworld....its my uncle who wants it...I told him he can get something like what i have but he said "i want something that tells me about every camera", aka even those lasers that the police use....I told him ok, lemme do my research so here I am! :ph34r: the database from pocketgps does has quite a few false alerts and thats something he would definitely wouldn't want (it also doesn't cover the police speed check areas) Same here, running TomTom Mobile 5 on my Nokia 9500.Again using the Database from Pocket GPS World It has various ones from Temp Speed Camera locations, Gatsos, Speed Zones etc.It caters for most of the SatNav's out there now, not just TomTom.Well worth the Quote
Masked Marauder Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 so easy to be a little over speed limit these days, radar detectors are handy as a reminder,especially how sneaky the police are getting, imo They would have to be bloody sneaky as the police/camera vans don't use radar anymore, and have not done for 8 years. You need a laser detector for the devices used now. mumof4 and bigj...buy a ticket to the real world That comment is bordering on offensive IMO. But apart from that: Anyone who thinks a Sat-Nav unit with camera database will protect them from a speeding ticket needs to buy a ticket to the real world. Do you think they camera van operators don't know where they are marked on the database? The vans have wheels you know... And traffic cops don't use regular locations and your sat-nav won't protect you from VASCAR, Police Pilot etc. The only way to avoid a speeding ticket is not to speed and observe the speed limit signs. Same here, running TomTom Mobile 5 on my Nokia 9500.Again using the Database from Pocket GPS World It has various ones from Temp Speed Camera locations, Gatsos, Speed Zones etc.It caters for most of the SatNav's out there now, not just TomTom.Well worth the Quote
Masked Marauder Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 the laser detector is for the laser guns used by police i.e non static cameras And camera vans which can be located anywhere and need no warning signs but he also say that the police are only allowed to speed check in designated areasif the above is true then you can easily add those areas as POI's on the satnav and then there's no need for a laser detector right? Wrong, they can and do check anywhere. also, what happens when there's an unmarked police car behind you with one of those cameras (just like in road wars) do they use lasers or does it show the speed of the police car? Moving checks will be done with ProVIDa, VASCAR or similar. They are "time over distance" devices and will usually be superimposed onto video. the halfords guy also said the 360 degree laser detector has about one second to tell you that someones fired a laser on you and by that time its too late....also, how can it be 360 degree detection? if its fitted to the windscreen theb there's the all the pillars and the seats blocking its view, i highly doubt it can do 360 degrees... I agree, unless it has several wide angle sensors. If the laser is targeted onto another vehicle you may get a warning from the scattered light, but if it is pointed at you then your caught as it takes all it's measurements in a fraction of a second. If you then brake hard and it is a Police Officer he will likely seize the detector as evidence of attempting to pervert the course of justice. So from a likely Fixed Penalty Offer to a court case... Quote
Dave-G Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 Sorry MM, but it's not yet illegal to use a laser detector as it does not interfere with police equipment. I suspect you are confusing this with a laser jammer - which does affect their equipment and therefore perverts the course of justice. EDIT: That is my understanding of things - and this seems to confirm it, but things are moving quite fast on this topic. Some kind of sat nav with camera add-on is probably the way to go now Quote
Masked Marauder Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 Three months ago I would not have said that. However the government want a change, but the law will take time to pass. Current rumor has it that they are pressing for a test case which would bring it into law by the back door. Quote
seatkid Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 There is no to buy anything! ;) The cameras are painted bright yellow. :ph34r:All you need is to open your eyes and look! :D ;) Quote
El Dingo Posted August 2, 2006 Report Posted August 2, 2006 I have a road angel and use this as a GPS receiver for TomTom on a PDA.(By the way, I'm not recommending this solution - Road Angel is too expensive IMHO). What I like about the road angel is that when I'm in a town (or Galaxy) far far away, and I'm not familiar with where I'm going, and TomTom tries to send me the wrong way up a one-way-street, and I have a taxi cab parked on my rear bumper and hooting.... If I accelerate out of trouble, and there is a camera there, I'll be warned. The laser detector bit is, as others have said, next to useless. However, I have been targeted, and it's been interesting to see just how far away they can get you! Believe me, unless you have significantly better than 20/20 vision you won't see them until they have nabbed you. The way this might work is in heavy traffic, where you pick up rebounds. I'm not really convinced either way. The other angle on this is the money-making, self-financing bureaurocracy that has sprung up. They are criminalising otherwise law-abiding drivers, maybe doing 47 in a 40 limit due to a momentary lapse in concentration.The 'camera partnerships' don't care if you drive like an idiot, have an unroadworthy vehicle, with no insurance and put out enough pollution and carcinogens to kill an entire school. You won't care about this if you own such a vehicle, as you you won't register it anyway... Quote
delboyt Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 the decetors you can buy for your car doe's not pick upmobile dectectors until they detect you as the detector needs to pick up the radar but mobile ones only come on when the police press it to dectet you by then they got you.also the dector in cars are brill as they warn you ofall sorts of things on the roadaccident black spotsspeed cameras thet only work in 1 direction as so many are not actually fittedwith cameras just the road markings to fool us allbrilliant device i reconabout Quote
Guest gooner52 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Posted September 13, 2006 i also use the speed camera database 4 the tomtom 910 also have a roadpilot,which is even better wouldnt drive with outit,not only does it do all types of cameras,but warns off hotspots,schools,cc,etc doesnt work on radar or laser,all cameras are downloaded via roaddpilot database,and it works out your position via gps,just update once a week, so i think its great ;) Quote
oscargps9 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 Hi all I use a snooper s6 neo - this has built in modem and allows updates as often as I want without plugging into a computer. Yes it has the laser add on. The system runs on GPS - therefore is not illegal and wont be consficated by the likes of me - only ones that detect emissions (radar,laser) have been deemed illegal by the courts and are subject to seizure.Some areas are sticking rigidly to ACPO guidelines and therefore cameras are set at absolute minimum - ie 34 in a 30mph limit. Its these ones that having a system like this helps - we wont admit to speeding but we do drift slightly above the limit dont we ?Most police cars have a time/distance computer on them - this calculates the average speed of the target vehicle. Turning on and off at set points. These devices are no good for one of those.Ever noticed white painted squares or circles on the motorway and wondered what they were for as you drove over one - local traffic chaps probably just got your average speed !! Drive safely. Quote
Smilge Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 Hi all I use a snooper s6 neo - this has built in modem and allows updates as often as I want without plugging into a computer. Yes it has the laser add on. The system runs on GPS - therefore is not illegal and wont be consficated by the likes of me - only ones that detect emissions (radar,laser) have been deemed illegal by the courts and are subject to seizure.Some areas are sticking rigidly to ACPO guidelines and therefore cameras are set at absolute minimum - ie 34 in a 30mph limit. Its these ones that having a system like this helps - we wont admit to speeding but we do drift slightly above the limit dont we ?Most police cars have a time/distance computer on them - this calculates the average speed of the target vehicle. Turning on and off at set points. These devices are no good for one of those.Ever noticed white painted squares or circles on the motorway and wondered what they were for as you drove over one - local traffic chaps probably just got your average speed !! Drive safely. A good point Oscar...just a warning to those travelling in France....If you get stopped and caught using your emission detector to detect speed cameras, YOUR CAR WILL BE CONFISCATED until you pay a rediculous fine to release the vehicle. This happened to a guy I work with this August just gone! Quote
El Dingo Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 Quote from the 'Road Angel' web site: >>>What is The Road Safety Bill ? The Road Safety Bill is a document that proposes a number of changes in how we as drivers are expected to act on UK Quote
Guest gooner52 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 el i been told this does happen in france too :) Quote
El Dingo Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 What, the car??? They just took my Road Angel... :) Quote
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