Really Could Do With Some Help Or Advice

[Guest ezra]

hi to all

I have recently brought Ford Galaxy 1.9tdi it is the 110 vw engine

its on a s-plate and done 88.000 miles with history

when i brought it and drove it home, it drove lovely

when i got home i turned engine off, after 10 mins decided to take it a little run with the family

after starting it up, the orange deisel light started flashine (engine managment light)

after a while the oil light started flashing allso

I THOUGHT OOOOOOO NO

took the car home and got in touch with auto elec, with the tools to find the fault

i changed the water temp sencor as that was the fault on the machine

i allso changed the 2 oil sencors on top of the oil filter, and the oil temp sencor

on the side of the crank

i thought i had curred the problem,

here is my question i could do with some help

 

Running round town, oil temp reads 87--91

but when i get it on the dual carraigway the temp will go to 95--99 and it makes my oil light flicker

Can anyone help me out here??

wot temp should the car run at when driving around town

wot temp should the car run at when on dual carriagway or motorway

and does anyone no what the problem could be with the oil light flickering

 

I would be very very gratefull for any info

thanks in advance

Ezra..

PS..

Just gave the car Oil change and Filter, took for drive same problem

round town oil temp up to 85--90

took on road at 70 mph, oil temp rising to 95--99 and oil light flashing

this is really starting to get to me now, as not able to take the car out

far, ANY info would help

cheers

Mark

[Masked Marauder]

I think your looking at a stuck oil bypass valve somewhere if the pressure is really dropping that low. I doubt it is though. You need to get some one to do a proper oil pressure test with a guage and go from there.

[Guest ezra]

I think your looking at a stuck oil bypass valve somewhere if the pressure is really dropping that low. I doubt it is though. You need to get some one to do a proper oil pressure test with a guage and go from there.

 

The problem is with the OIL TEMP rising to high i think.

thats making the oil light flash, but im not sure wats making the oil temp to rise that much

any ideas what the oil temp should run at, around town and on motorway

cheers

Ezra

[sepulchrave]

TBH Ezra those oil temperatures really don't sound that high for a turbocharged engine, I have the VR6 petrol engine and my MFA oil temperature readings are definitely higher than yours...but they're perfectly normal.

 

I would guess that you have two separate temperature senders: one for the MFA reading and one for the flashing warning light. I'm betting that your warning sender has gone out of spec. and is raising a false alarm.

[Guest 3.5bullet]

just out of interest what oil did you use?

[Masked Marauder]

The oil in my Astra used to regularly get to over 110Deg C and it was not a turbo!

[Guest ezra]

thanks for the replys

the oil i have just used was semi synthetic 10/40,

thats wot i was told at a ford spares shop

 

It would be very helptull to me if i could get the oil temp readings from another ford galaxt 1.9tdi 110 engine

the engine seems to be getting really really hot to me, it may be me, worrying to much about the oil temps

cheers

anymore help would be very very gratefull

cheers

Ezra..

[sepulchrave]

You're really not going to like this ezra, but on a long run your turbo may actually get hot enough to glow in the dark! :10:

 

What does your coolant temperature guage tell you...

 

Normal?

 

Given that your oil is 'cooled' by the coolant, you could reasonably expect the oil to be about the same temperature as the coolant....

 

and it is!

 

Unless you're getting the low coolant warning light...

[Guest ezra]

You're really not going to like this ezra, but on a long run your turbo may actually get hot enough to glow in the dark! :10:

 

What does your coolant temperature guage tell you...

 

Normal?

 

Given that your oil is 'cooled' by the coolant, you could reasonably expect the oil to be about the same temperature as the coolant....

 

and it is!

 

Unless you're getting the low coolant warning light...

 

hi

the water temp of the car is only going half way, which i thought was normal..?

i no there is 4 sencors that i have changed

i have changed

Both sencors on top of the oil filter

and the sencor on the side of the crank

(i have allso changed the water temp sencor)

as the auto electrician and his fault finding machine,found that this was at fault

it came up on his maching intermitent fault, so i changed that

that is wot put the engine management light on

 

My mainm worry is that damn oil light,

I dont know a lot about cars , and i dont want to get ript of by some cowboy

 

my last option is to book it in at main ford dealer, for them to test it on there machines

thats a cost of another

[Masked Marauder]

The warning light could be a wire grounding to the chassis or something, you really need to fit an independent gauge and see what the pressure is really doing.

 

Something like this is ideal, you can even buy a "T" piece and leave it permanently fitted. 40PSI is fine, below 20PSI and your looking for new parts.....

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Oil-Pressure-Gauge-I...5QQcmdZViewItem

[Guest ezra]

*STILL GOT PROBLEMS WITH OIL LIGHT *

:D :D :D :D :D :D :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[seatkid]

First of all, if you had a problem within a couple of days of buying, you should take it back to where you bought it and complain.... :D

 

Second, "normal" oil temperatures for a Tdi can be anywhere from 95 to 130 deg C dependant on what output the engine is pushing, ambient temperatures etc etc. At 70mph motorway cruising 20 deg C ambient expect between 110 and 125 deg C. From the manual - " The engine speed should be reduced if the oil temperature rises to +145 deg C"

 

Third, the 110bhp Tdi is fitted with an oil pressure warning , not an oil level warning as in later PD engines. If the "Oil can" light is flickering - this means either low oil pressure or a dicky oil pressure switch.

 

Low oil pressure is SERIOUS and will lead to rapid engine wear and failure. This could be due to failing oil pump, the pressure relief valve sticking open (common fault if the oil changes were skipped) or a blockage somehere in the oil system. As the engine warms up, oil thins and oil pressure problems will be more obvious.

i have allso noticed it will start first touch when cold,but as soon as its been

running 10-15 mins and i go to star it, the engine turns over for quite a while

befor it starts, maybe this could be down to my oil light issue

Could be a sensor, unfortunately I'm inclined to think your car engine bores are worn and your'e not getting enough compression when its warm

 

However dicky oil pressure switches are also common, and they tend to flicker in the way you describe. Try changing the switch, if that doesnt help - get it into a garage - fast.

 

Don't continue to drive around, thinking the problem will just go away.

[Guest ezra]

First of all, if you had a problem within a couple of days of buying, you should take it back to where you bought it and complain.... :D

 

Second, "normal" oil temperatures for a Tdi can be anywhere from 95 to 130 deg C dependant on what output the engine is pushing, ambient temperatures etc etc. At 70mph motorway cruising 20 deg C ambient expect between 110 and 125 deg C. From the manual - " The engine speed should be reduced if the oil temperature rises to +145 deg C"

 

Third, the 110bhp Tdi is fitted with an oil pressure warning , not an oil level warning as in later PD engines. If the "Oil can" light is flickering - this means either low oil pressure or a dicky oil pressure switch.

 

Low oil pressure is SERIOUS and will lead to rapid engine wear and failure. This could be due to failing oil pump, the pressure relief valve sticking open (common fault if the oil changes were skipped) or a blockage somehere in the oil system. As the engine warms up, oil thins and oil pressure problems will be more obvious.

i have allso noticed it will start first touch when cold,but as soon as its been

running 10-15 mins and i go to star it, the engine turns over for quite a while

befor it starts, maybe this could be down to my oil light issue

Could be a sensor, unfortunately I'm inclined to think your car engine bores are worn and your'e not getting enough compression when its warm

 

However dicky oil pressure switches are also common, and they tend to flicker in the way you describe. Try changing the switch, if that doesnt help - get it into a garage - fast.

 

Don't continue to drive around, thinking the problem will just go away.

 

were would i find the OIL PRESSURE SWITCH ??

[Guest ezra]

First of all, if you had a problem within a couple of days of buying, you should take it back to where you bought it and complain.... :D

 

Second, "normal" oil temperatures for a Tdi can be anywhere from 95 to 130 deg C dependant on what output the engine is pushing, ambient temperatures etc etc. At 70mph motorway cruising 20 deg C ambient expect between 110 and 125 deg C. From the manual - " The engine speed should be reduced if the oil temperature rises to +145 deg C"

 

Third, the 110bhp Tdi is fitted with an oil pressure warning , not an oil level warning as in later PD engines. If the "Oil can" light is flickering - this means either low oil pressure or a dicky oil pressure switch.

 

Low oil pressure is SERIOUS and will lead to rapid engine wear and failure. This could be due to failing oil pump, the pressure relief valve sticking open (common fault if the oil changes were skipped) or a blockage somehere in the oil system. As the engine warms up, oil thins and oil pressure problems will be more obvious.

i have allso noticed it will start first touch when cold,but as soon as its been

running 10-15 mins and i go to star it, the engine turns over for quite a while

befor it starts, maybe this could be down to my oil light issue

Could be a sensor, unfortunately I'm inclined to think your car engine bores are worn and your'e not getting enough compression when its warm

 

However dicky oil pressure switches are also common, and they tend to flicker in the way you describe. Try changing the switch, if that doesnt help - get it into a garage - fast.

 

Don't continue to drive around, thinking the problem will just go away.

 

were would i find the OIL PRESSURE SWITCH ??

 

I have cganged 3 sencors

changed both sencors on top of oil filter

changed the sencor on block at side of cam

IS THER ANY OTHER SENCOR I CAN TRY

not sure were the OIL PRESSURE SWITCH WILL BE

[Masked Marauder]

 

not sure were the OIL PRESSURE SWITCH WILL BE

 

 

It is the blue one on the filter housing. Get a guage and take the sensor out, put the guage on and test the pressure.

 

The oil in my truck was at 110C last night by the way.

[Guest ezra]

HI AGAIN

the two sencors on the filter

i think you are refering to the sencor on the right hand side

the sencor in mine is not BLUE it is GREY

WHEN I PUT A BLUE ONE IN I GET THE OIL WARNING LIGHT ON CONTINUELY

AND THAT BEEPING NOISE SOUNDS

I tryed the blue one befor,i allso looked on my m8's galaxy, same engine and he allso has the grey sencor

there, so im not sure wy people say it should be BLUE

The sencor on side of crank is Blue

[Masked Marauder]

Could be a sensor, unfortunately I'm inclined to think your car engine bores are worn and your'e not getting enough compression when its warm

 

However dicky oil pressure switches are also common, and they tend to flicker in the way you describe. Try changing the switch, if that doesnt help - get it into a garage - fast.

 

Don't continue to drive around, thinking the problem will just go away.

 

Worn bores will not cause low oil pressure. Not ever. Worn mains or big end shells will though. But I agree, it could be faulty wiring or switch, or pressure relief valve, which is why the advice I have constantly given is to fit a gauge and read the pressure off properly. Or get someone to do it for him. But he would sooner keep buying parts....

[Guest ezra]

Could be a sensor, unfortunately I'm inclined to think your car engine bores are worn and your'e not getting enough compression when its warm

 

However dicky oil pressure switches are also common, and they tend to flicker in the way you describe. Try changing the switch, if that doesnt help - get it into a garage - fast.

 

Don't continue to drive around, thinking the problem will just go away.

 

Worn bores will not cause low oil pressure. Not ever. Worn mains or big end shells will though. But I agree, it could be faulty wiring or switch, or pressure relief valve, which is why the advice I have constantly given is to fit a gauge and read the pressure off properly. Or get someone to do it for him. But he would sooner keep buying parts....

 

NO i would not sooner keep buying parts,but i would like to get info on how to fix the problem myself

sooner than pay Fraud dealers

The wife just been on school run in it a matter of 2 miles round trip,

the car seem to loose power and hold back if ya get wot i mean,

then she reversed car on the yard, and the bloody deisel light as come on

ENGINE MANAGEMENT LIGHT

So now i seem to have more probs, DAMN CAR

guess ill have to leave it with the so called profesionals at Fraud dealers

probally cost a arm and a leg as i no nothing about cars or engines

but this problem not go away by itself

cheers

Mark..

[Masked Marauder]

If you can give more info on the warning light we may be able to help locate the problem on that. It can be as simple as the brake light switch, but that does not normally cause a loss of power though.

 

Start a new thread and ask with more detailed info.