Guest Wanny Posted April 30, 2006 Report Posted April 30, 2006 Hi guys, I have an opertunity to get another job that involves a company car of sorts. They give you an allowance per year to cover the payments and insurance etc and allow you to claim for 14p per mile. My question is what sort of realistic MPG do you get out of a TDI (115 or 130) crusing at around 70- 80mph. I really do love the Gal for its high driving position but am sightly concerned about it being to expensive to run over the experted 25K per year. I think the Gal is an excellent mile muncher but I have also looked for an alternive such as the VW Touran. Any thoughts or comments appreciated. Cheers Ian Quote
Chilli Posted April 30, 2006 Report Posted April 30, 2006 I find i get 45mpg if i travel at 65-70mph. :D When i go a little faster 80ish :lol: 39mpg.Thats with a 130bhp Galaxy. Steve Quote
johnb80 Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 Hi guys, I have an opertunity to get another job that involves a company car of sorts. They give you an allowance per year to cover the payments and insurance etc and allow you to claim for 14p per mile. Don't take that job, theyre ripping you off, the tax man allows you much more than that on a mileage basis. Regards - JB Quote
NikpV Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 I think the Gal is an excellent mile muncher but I have also looked for an alternive such as the VW Touran. out of interest what sort of mpg are you looking at for the touran? Quote
Guest Wanny Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 As for the Touran I don't really know, offical figures suggest up to 10mpg over the gal. I have yet to drive one to see if you get the same visablity and secure feeling you get when driving the Gal. Anyone tried one ! Cheers Ian Quote
NikpV Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 No but were considering one - interested in your views if you test drive one Quote
Sharanfx Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 As for the Touran I don't really know, offical figures suggest up to 10mpg over the gal. I have yet to drive one to see if you get the same visablity and secure feeling you get when driving the Gal. Anyone tried one ! Cheers IanIt would make sense that its more ecconomical, same type of engine and a lighter car. Its a far more modern design than the Sharan/Galaxy but a little smaller. Nice car to drive and based on the MK5 golf platform. Quote
Buncers Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 Don't take that job, theyre ripping you off, the tax man allows you much more than that on a mileage basis. Don't forget you can claim back the difference between what you employer re-imburses and the goverment allowance (40p per mile for first 10,000 miles) in your end of year tax return as tax relief. Quote
johnb80 Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 I didn't know that, I do know also that you can claim tax relief on the interest charged on a loan to buy the vehicle so thats another way to coin it back from the taxman. Quote
Scorpiorefugee Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 JohnB is absolutely right. 14p/mile is a rip off. In the Summer, cruising carefully, you should aim for 10 miles/litre, i.e.10p/mile. In the Winter that will fall to 8.5/9 miles/litre which takes you perilously close to 14p/mile leaving nothing for tax, insurance and bills. If you drive above 85, apart from risking a fine, you'll be using most of your 14p on fuel. The government allows you to claim 40p/mile for the first 10k and 25p thereafter and they are not renouned for their generosity so your prospective employers are looking for a mug. To make this pay, you need to be looking at 60/70 mpg and total reliability. I've been doing high mileage with reliable motors for many years and I only got close to 14p/mile 15 years ago! The 'allowance' could balance this out but I believe that the tax office frown very heavily on 2 part arrangements and your prospective employer is either very naive or crafty. Think very carefully. Ron. Quote
muffking Posted May 2, 2006 Report Posted May 2, 2006 14p does seem low, unless they're expecting you to claim tax relief on the value of the car, as I can claim up to 40p per mile and still get Quote
Scorpiorefugee Posted May 2, 2006 Report Posted May 2, 2006 Muffking. It sounds like you're getting both. I have no wish to pry but you should check the legality of what you're doing. I used to have a similar but much less lucrative arrangement and my 'employer' got done for tax and NIC on about ten years high end back payments wjth no course for appeal. Not just for me, but for 11 other employees, including himself. It nearly put him out of business! Quote
muffking Posted May 2, 2006 Report Posted May 2, 2006 I should be alright, we are a worldwide company employing over 600 people in the UK.I only get 40 p per mile if I use my non company car, the fuel in my car allowance car (the Quote
Scorpiorefugee Posted May 2, 2006 Report Posted May 2, 2006 Sounds like they've got it sussed. It's just that dear old Gordon has made it his life's work to hit the easy targets and he only needs a wiff and he sends the boys in. :P Quote
Bigjeeze Posted May 3, 2006 Report Posted May 3, 2006 Wanny you need to clarify the allownace element - I get 5400 pa for a car allowance then 12p per business mile plus what I get back from the tax man. If you get a similar deal then it sounds OK - Put it this way a regular company car really stings you on the tax. Quote
johnb80 Posted May 3, 2006 Report Posted May 3, 2006 IIRC the actual figure for my Galaxy which is a company car it costs me personally Quote
MrT Posted May 3, 2006 Report Posted May 3, 2006 If your employer gives you a fully maintained car you cannot claim back the extra mileage rate from the tax man over what they pay you, you can only do this for your own car or possibly in some self-employed or contractor status. The additional rate is meant to cover depreciation and other costs which you don't pay for with a company car. When I had a company 2.8 Galaxy I got 19p a mile and now I have my own I only get the standard 12p per mile but the tax man now makes up the standard rate. Many companies now pay a standard mileage rate for all cars claiming that this is due to their consideration of the environment and encourages employees to run greener cars. I reckon it is more to do with lower costs. You can get far more details on taxation of cars and fuel at: Car & Fuel Tax The current advisory rates not attracting a taxable benefit are 9p per miles for a diesel under 2000cc. Quote
Bigjeeze Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 IIRC the actual figure for my Galaxy which is a company car it costs me personally Quote
MrT Posted May 5, 2006 Report Posted May 5, 2006 On my 2.8 the taxable rate was 35% of the value due to its high emissions. Buying it from the company and running it myself worked out far cheaper, although I could have an expensive air-con repair coming soon. Quote
Guest Wanny Posted May 6, 2006 Report Posted May 6, 2006 Expect to do 25-30K per year and you just can't bet the Gal for high driving postion on good visibility and comfort. Not into 4x4's so gal will do. Look at newer C8's and 807's and Espace but I heard some dodge reports Quote
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