galaxy_1.9TD_Zetec Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 Hi, Does anyone know how I could re-program a new remote key fob - just got chance to buy one from a breakers and would be useful to have a second one for the car. Thanks, Graeme Quote
bigdaddy Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 Do a search this has been covered many times,,,,,,,,,,,, Quote
NikpV Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 here you go thanks to seatkid and ressurected by BD remote key programming Quote
bigdaddy Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 Will galaxy-1.9tdi-zetec not need ,,,,,vag-com and the dealer,,,,,,,,as the chip in the key will need reprogramed as well Quote
NikpV Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 As long you have got 2 keys you can program the chip on another (Mk II) or on a Mk I you need the red key to do this IIRC :blink: Quote
bigdaddy Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 yeah think u might be right,,,,,,,,,i think u need vag-com and dealer if u dont have two keys or the red key Quote
galaxy_1.9TD_Zetec Posted April 16, 2006 Author Report Posted April 16, 2006 I have 1 remote key fob already programmed, and another key with no remote. You recon I can program a second remote using the procedure in the link ? Quote
NikpV Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 right - the two keys you have will enable you to program the new key to be accepted by the immobiliser system. Can't remember procedure I will have a look later The link is for reprogramming the remote key - follow the procedure - note after the new key is programmed all others will be erased so you have to repeat the procedure will all of your remotes (up to a max of 4) without exiting the gem system. Note the two sections are separate - you can have a remote which opens the car but cannot run the engine and vice versa Hope this helps :blink: :( Quote
bigdaddy Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 Only to programme the remote function of the key,,,,,,,,,,,,if u need to programme the key to start the car,,,,give me the year of ur gal and i will search for u :blink: Quote
NikpV Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 Programming new keys for PATS immobilizer This procedure only works if two or more programmed ignition keys are available and it is desired to program additional key(s). Note:If the programming procedure is not successful, the new key(s) will not start the vehicle and the anti-theft indicator will flash. If the programming procedure was not successful leave the ignition switch in the RUN position for at least 30 seconds, repeat the Key Programming procedure from step 1. If the failure repeats, refer to Diagnostic and testing to review DTCs and carry out Pinpoint Tests. Note:A maximum of eight ignition keys can be programmed to a passive anti-theft system (PATS) equipped vehicle. Note:If the steps are not carried out as outlined, the programming procedure will end. Note:Ignition keys must have the correct mechanical key cut for the vehicle and must be a PATS encoded key. 1. Insert the first programmed key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the lock cylinder from the OFF position to the RUN position (maintain ignition lock cylinder in the RUN position for one second). 2. Turn ignition lock cylinder to the OFF position and remove the first key from the ignition lock cylinder. 3. Within five seconds of turning the ignition lock cylinder to the OFF position, insert the second programmed ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the ignition lock from the OFF position to the RUN position (maintain the ignition lock cylinder in the RUN position for one second). 4. Turn the ignition lock cylinder to the OFF position and remove the second key from the ignition lock cylinder, key programming mode is now active. 5. Within ten seconds of turning the ignition lock cylinder to the OFF position, insert the unprogrammed ignition key (new key) into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the ignition lock cylinder from the OFF position to the RUN position (maintain the ignition lock cylinder in the RUN position for less than five seconds). 6. Check the new programmed key starts the vehicle. Turn the ignition key to the OFF position for five seconds and then try to start the vehicle with the new programmed key. 7. To program additional key(s), repeat the applicable key programming procedure from step 1. Quote
galaxy_1.9TD_Zetec Posted April 16, 2006 Author Report Posted April 16, 2006 Thanks to all who replied - I will give it a try. Will let you know how I get on. Quote
jkspoff Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 I have 2 infra red remote keys that work perfectly, in the ignition and opening/closing, I have the original 'master' key that is not programmed. I've tried the above procedure with this 'master' key, but cannot get it to program. Does anyone know of another method for a non-remote master key, other than taking it to Ford and being charged the earth. :D Quote
NikpV Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 sorry I am confused - mk2 (from your sig) have radio not Ird remotes, they don't have 'master' keys either - unless its a completely new breed of car. If you have three radio remotes you have to program all three at one go the procedure above in the thread is to program the key so it starts the car (pats system) not for remote operation - for that you need the link in the second or third post in the thread Quote
jkspoff Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 Sorry, I mean radio remote keys. I have 2 of these working ok, but a third non-radio key that came with it that doesn't. Quote
NikpV Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 has it ever worked, I am assuming that it opens doors and turns in the ignition, could you have possibly lost the pats chip from the key (do these even come apart) incidentally I assume its a black key. If te procedure doesn't work I suspect its off to fords for tem to program it with their wds 2000 system, I would have a couple of goes though. I don't know if there is any indication that its gone into programming mode ? Quote
jkspoff Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 Hi, yes its a black key with the chip still in it. I have tried the procedure several times but with no luck. I'm not convinced that its even entering the programming mode. The key does turn the ignition and opens the doors, but just won't de-immobilise. The other two radio keys do the lot and work ok. The key did work a while back, which is whats confusing me, why would it loose its code ? Quote
NikpV Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 Has the car ever been a Fleet or rental vehicle, it is possible to turn off the ability to program a spare key in the PCM module The Spare Key Programming Switch is a WDS programmable switch which provides the capability to enable/disable the normal customer Spare Key Programming Procedure detailed in the owner's manual (customer can program a spare ignition key by cycling two programmed ignition keys and then cycling the new key). This programmable switch is provided as a convenience for rental company fleets or other fleet purchasers who may not want the Spare Key Programming procedure available to the vehicle driver. Note; The default setting on delivery of all new vehicles is ENABLE. Looks like a trip to fords or maybe someone with vag-com (if te ability has been disabled) Quote
jkspoff Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 No its never been a fleet or hire vehicle, I'll try again with it before taking it to dealer, or just make do with the two keys. :angry: Quote
joczeze Posted April 21, 2007 Report Posted April 21, 2007 HiI am also trying to programme a new key on my PATs Ford Galaxy system.I had try this system, that also comes in Autodata. Cannot do it, or I am mak some mistake.Does anyone ave done it suucessefull ? My galaxy is a MK1 1998, TDi Thanks Quote
joczeze Posted April 23, 2007 Report Posted April 23, 2007 Dear Friends I have follow the instrutions in this, to try programming a new key with PATS. My car are a 1.9 TDI Galaxy MK1, 1998. I believe the way to do it the same. I have 2black keys taht works very well, but the one with the remote does not start the engine.Does this sistem works ? Does anybody was sucesseful with it ?I also have this information in Ford TIS and Autodata, but cannot programming it. I also believe that even does not go into programming way ! Can anyone help me ? What am I make that is not correct ? Can I program it with VAG-com ? I do not have any login code !! Regards Quote
hugh64 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) Programming new keys for PATS immobilizer This procedure only works if two or more programmed ignition keys are available and it is desired to program additional key(s). Note:If the programming procedure is not successful, the new key(s) will not start the vehicle and the anti-theft indicator will flash. If the programming procedure was not successful leave the ignition switch in the RUN position for at least 30 seconds, repeat the Key Programming procedure from step 1. If the failure repeats, refer to Diagnostic and testing to review DTCs and carry out Pinpoint Tests. Note:A maximum of eight ignition keys can be programmed to a passive anti-theft system (PATS) equipped vehicle. Note:If the steps are not carried out as outlined, the programming procedure will end. Note:Ignition keys must have the correct mechanical key cut for the vehicle and must be a PATS encoded key. 1. Insert the first programmed key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the lock cylinder from the OFF position to the RUN position (maintain ignition lock cylinder in the RUN position for one second). 2. Turn ignition lock cylinder to the OFF position and remove the first key from the ignition lock cylinder. 3. Within five seconds of turning the ignition lock cylinder to the OFF position, insert the second programmed ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the ignition lock from the OFF position to the RUN position (maintain the ignition lock cylinder in the RUN position for one second). 4. Turn the ignition lock cylinder to the OFF position and remove the second key from the ignition lock cylinder, key programming mode is now active. 5. Within ten seconds of turning the ignition lock cylinder to the OFF position, insert the unprogrammed ignition key (new key) into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the ignition lock cylinder from the OFF position to the RUN position (maintain the ignition lock cylinder in the RUN position for less than five seconds). 6. Check the new programmed key starts the vehicle. Turn the ignition key to the OFF position for five seconds and then try to start the vehicle with the new programmed key. 7. To program additional key(s), repeat the applicable key programming procedure from step 1. help Edited October 16, 2007 by hugh64 Quote
hugh64 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 Has the car ever been a Fleet or rental vehicle, it is possible to turn off the ability to program a spare key in the PCM module The Spare Key Programming Switch is a WDS programmable switch which provides the capability to enable/disable the normal customer Spare Key Programming Procedure detailed in the owner's manual (customer can program a spare ignition key by cycling two programmed ignition keys and then cycling the new key). This programmable switch is provided as a convenience for rental company fleets or other fleet purchasers who may not want the Spare Key Programming procedure available to the vehicle driver. Note; The default setting on delivery of all new vehicles is ENABLE. Looks like a trip to fords or maybe someone with vag-com (if te ability has been disabled)whatwwhat do you do if you only have one key that is programed and one thats not Quote
NikpV Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 see reply on other thread - please dont ask the same question on multiple threads, once you post the thread is moved to the top of the list and someone will reply (if they know the answer) Quote
needle2 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Posted November 23, 2007 what do you do if you only have one key that is programed and one thats not? This is exactly my problem - can NikpVs method be used if you only have 2 keys in total? Anyone? Quote
NikpV Posted November 23, 2007 Report Posted November 23, 2007 if you only have one key programmed for the PATS you need to go to your main dealer (will charge about Quote
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