Pet Hates

[katman]

Don't you just love starting a rant on here!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have just started watching "Grumpy Old Men" on SKY+ :D :D

[Bigjeeze]

MM - Grandson!! Just noticed what you said!! :lol: :D

 

You can't take life seriously - especially over driving -it drives you nuts!!. :lol:

 

 

By the way MM you are wrong about the capacity of the railways on two counts - One most railroads have at least two up and two down routes - or fast & slow , so there is always room for more traffic, and two after and outside of rush hours the railways are empty - so you could go back to moving heavy freight at night like we always used to. In addtion the railways lost their freight business because of poor reliabilty due to union activity and also because the overall cost of owning and running HGV's has reduced in real terms in the last 30 years. :D Witness the Royal Mail.

 

Anyway I have to go and polish the bayonet in case the Germans arrive - because as you know "they don't like it up em!!" :lol:

[Scorpiorefugee]

I dunno!

 

Some of em do I hear say. :lol:

[Scorpiorefugee]

Oh! And about railways..

 

How do they get the goods from the railways to all these factory and business sites that are now scattered far and wide.

 

This is going to take some SERIOUS commitment and reorganisation but it would be nice to see some joined up government thinking.

[Bigjeeze]

Oh! And about railways..

 

How do they get the goods from the railways to all these factory and business sites that are now scattered far and wide.

 

This is going to take some SERIOUS commitment and reorganisation but it would be nice to see some joined up government thinking.

 

 

Well you don't do MM out of a job - you shift it with lorries!!!! :lol:

[katman]

government thinking.

Its Oxymoron Time :lol: :lol:

[johnb80]

Re Gerry's comment about closed lanes, I believe that the advised procedure IS to use all lanes up to the filter.

 

I stay in the outside lane and match my speed to the next lane, even if that leaves a gap in front, and filter in one on one. It works beautifully and doesn't slow the traffic at all unless there is one dimwhit who can't understand the principle.

 

This is the sort of thing that needs to be explained to some drivers.

 

Question. What do queue jumpers have in common with computers?

Answer. The information has to be punched in!

If I'm in a lengthy queue and people go down the outside clearly queue jumping when I get to the front another potential computer experience can be had.... CRASH ! There's no way you're coming down the outside to push your way in in front of me. If these morons joined the back of the queue the traffic would flow faster, it makes no sense at all to have all the three lanes up to the lane closed in use, you can only get 2 lanesworth of traffic through.

 

Regards - JB

[Scorpiorefugee]

I agree john but if you leave the lane clear, people will always jump down it and it also makes the queue 50% longer. Also, when the queue gets long, who knows when it is time to get over. In my experience, it is the people who move over too early that starts the in fighting.

 

I don't go down the outside, I sit in it keeping pace and then when the traffic speeds up and spreads out merging becomes easy across all three lanes, so long as drivers behave like responsible adults (Or is that another oxymoron?)

 

It does work and the idea is spreading slowly. It just needs a little self control.

[Masked Marauder]

Oh! And about railways..

 

How do they get the goods from the railways to all these factory and business sites that are now scattered far and wide.

 

This is going to take some SERIOUS commitment and reorganisation but it would be nice to see some joined up government thinking.

 

 

Well you don't do MM out of a job - you shift it with lorries!!!! :lol:

It wouldn't be doing me out of a job. I work for a supermarket so until they build suitable rail freight terminals for that then I think I am safe.

 

More seriously though, most modern businesses use a "Just In Time" system for goods & parts and it is wholly unsuitable for the delays that are inherrant in a rail freight operation.

 

The only compromise that could come close would be RO-RO rail freight and they tried that and it failed because the tunnels were too small.

[johnb80]

I agree john but if you leave the lane clear, people will always jump down it and it also makes the queue 50% longer. Also, when the queue gets long, who knows when it is time to get over. In my experience, it is the people who move over too early that starts the in fighting.

 

I don't go down the outside, I sit in it keeping pace and then when the traffic speeds up and spreads out merging becomes easy across all three lanes, so long as drivers behave like responsible adults (Or is that another oxymoron?)

 

It does work and the idea is spreading slowly. It just needs a little self control.

Generally what I do when I join the back of the queue is be most of the way over in the lane thats closed. That stops the queue jumpers and drivers in the open lane usually let me in when we get up to the lane closure. It's interesting some of the reaction from the potential queue jumpers, Beemers and Mercs especially.

 

Regards - JB

[Masked Marauder]

Re Gerry's comment about closed lanes, I believe that the advised procedure IS to use all lanes up to the filter.

 

I had a feeing that they changed this back to how it was before and the following is all I can find in the highway code about it:

 

Rule 262: When the 'Road Works Ahead' sign is displayed, you will need to be more watchful and look for additional signs providing more specific instructions.

• You MUST NOT exceed any temporary maximum speed limit.
  
• Use your mirrors and get into the correct lane for your vehicle in good time and as signs direct.
  
• Do not switch lanes to overtake queuing traffic.
  
• Do not drive through an area marked off by traffic cones.
  
• Watch out for traffic entering or leaving the works area, but do not be distracted by what is going on there.
  
• Bear in mind that the road ahead may be obstructed by the works or by slow moving or stationary traffic.
  

Law RTRA sect 16

 

Suggesting if your in the closing lane then you can stay there, but you can't change into it after the sign showing it to be closed.

 

But is is only a code, not law (unless written in red)

[Scorpiorefugee]

There are signs in many places that tell you to use all lanes right up to the road works. They appear to be used when the lane closure is long term.

 

Either way, as both John and I try to do is to stop queue jumpers. My argument is that, by using all lanes and filling them up evenly, the jumpers have nowhere to go.

All that is left if for drivers to behave rationally at the point of lane closure and if it can be seen that no-one is getting an unfair advantage, this will happen. It is already evident that, under variable speed limit conditions, drivers spread out and the traffic moves well because no-one is trying to outdo anyone else.

 

My original suggestion was that, whatever the rules are, they should be well publishised and not, as happens now, left to individuals to make up their own or be forced to take vigilante type actions which only makes thing worse.

 

Developing this theme, if blatant speeders were removed, there would be less tendency for lane hogging as people driving at the legal limit would not have to run the gauntlet to pass a slower vehicle. You could even argue that lane hogging at the legal speed would not really be a problem.

 

It's all a case of having rules and sticking to them. Hence my qualified support for speed cameras.

 

Just to change the subject somewhat.

 

Are there any opinions on what to do about those unhappy individuals who cannot go anywhere without 1000 watts of tuneless thumping booming out of open windows.

 

I can only assume that, as no normal person could actually derive pleasure from being inside the car with that noise, they suffer it in the cause of causing as much annoyance to the rest of the general public as possible. In that case, I must congratulate them on their success. Or, am I missing something? :blink:

[AndeeeH]

Having dealt with the queue jumpers using the outside lane approaching a road narrowing what are we going to do about the ones that USE THE HARD SHOULDER!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :blink: :lol:

[gerrypm]

The loud thumping music, that you hear from cars, doesn't really annoy me that much.

I just cannot understand any benefit, they would get from it, unless the think being hard of hearing later on life is Kool.

There is also no way they would be able to hear the Emergency Services Vehicles approaching.

[johnb80]

Just to change the subject somewhat.

 

Are there any opinions on what to do about those unhappy individuals who cannot go anywhere without 1000 watts of tuneless thumping booming out of open windows.

 

I can only assume that, as no normal person could actually derive pleasure from being inside the car with that noise, they suffer it in the cause of causing as much annoyance to the rest of the general public as possible. In that case, I must congratulate them on their success. Or, am I missing something? :blink:

I would have thought technically they're driving 'Without due care and ATTENTION'

 

Regards - JB

[Scorpiorefugee]

Driving under the influence... is probably nearer the mark

[Bigjeeze]

What about clinically deaf drivers then? :ph34r:

[Masked Marauder]

What about clinically deaf drivers then? :(

Research shows that deaf drivers are better drivers. So the loud music brigade are just trying to improve their driving skills!

[Masked Marauder]

Anyway I have a new pet hate.

 

Drivers who can not drive at a steady speed.

 

I went through the roadworks on the M1 between J11 and J7 atthe weekend (I was working!) And the amouint of drivers who could not drive at a steady 38mph was unreal. At one point the car in front of me was doing 26mph.

[katman]

And the amouint of drivers who could not drive at a steady 38mph was unreal. At one point the car in front of me was doing 26mph.

I assume this was a temporary 40mph limit.

 

If everyone drove at a steady 38 and left a safe distance to the car in front there would be virtually no holdups but people drive far too close and as soon as someone touches the brake pedal for a second the whole line comes to standstill :(

[Masked Marauder]

It is a 40 limit, for the 9.6 miles of roadworks.

 

And it was nothing to do with the drivers in front, there was no one in front, yet all three lanes were clogged by three drivers who were driving like tits at the front of the traffic.

[Scorpiorefugee]

It's almost as annoying as those hypcrites who pass you at 100mph and then pull in front of you and slow to 60 when they see a police car parked on the other carriageway. :D :D :(

 

Where's my FIRE button?????