How To Protect The Vehicle

[Ventoux]

I have no the alarm system at Gal Tdi 2001 and I just thinking how to protect the car before car thieves.

I would say that all common commercial alarm systems are well known and therefore are not very effective.

I think that is much better to have just simple switch which does not allow to start the engine. Which wire is the best interrupt? But in fact it should not affect ECU, I mean it should not cause some error flags in ECU memory.

 

Ventoux

[Guest SA Intruder]

Ventoux, what would you rather stop working - the starter motor (i.e. the engine won't even turn over) or stop the engine starting (although it will turn over)?

 

We can then point you in the right direction....hopefully!

[Ventoux]

the starter is rather simple so I would prefer more sophisticated solution. do not allow the engine running. obviosly it has to be just due to a wire interruption, but safe for the engine and ECU! So the starter could be running but the motor would not start. Simple and effective.

V.

[HJT]

if someone really wants your car there's not a lot you can really do apart from leave a rotweiler in the car! or stick a picture of your mother inlaw to the dash :unsure:

 

My mother inlaw is a rotweiller so I just leave her stuck to the dash :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Howard

[Guest yurir]

Hi Ventoux,

 

The PATs immobiliser sytem (standard on Galaxys), and especially the one with integrated PATs and ECU module, is fairly secure. There are only 3 ways to get round it:

1) Use a key with matching code in its transponder (thats you)

 

2) Replace PATs and ECU module with your own one for which you have matching key (which would take more than a few minutes, from what I hear)

 

3) Reprogram PATs module with your own code. For this you would need the Ford/VW diagnostic system, which is only supplied to major dealers. Or you could make your own programmer if you could get hold of the protocols. In my opinion, this is the Achilles Heel of reprogrammable PATs ( and indeed any security system that is relying on secret protocols or algorithms). It is not inconceivable that some one on the inside may leak out the protocols required for reprogramming PATs.

 

But its unlikely that such sophisticated crooks will be looking for MPVs, so rest easy.

 

Yuri.

[Buncers]

I had an alarm system fitted to my 1996 TDI after some git broke in to steal my laptop (actually the company's).

 

Only problem is that the alarm isn't exactly deafening, it's the normal decibels, but seems to be dampened down by the sound insulation. Claxon is under the bonnet.

 

Before having it fitted I fitted a couple myself and had the same problem with the lack of decibels.

 

Anyone else had this problem ?

 

How do ford get around this ?

[Ivor_E_Tower]

Nobody takes any notice of alarms as a theft warning these days, they only get upset by it waking them if asleep.

Seems pretty pointless having an alarm really.

[Buncers]

Ivor E - Interesting comment, but if I had one fitted at the time when someone broke into my car in Waitrose car park, I may have heard it or the scum may have been scared away.

 

Also since I park both of my cars outside on my drive. If some light fingered junkie tried to break in hopefully the alarm would wake me and with me putting on the lights would scare them off.

 

So, I think there are some uses. For the serious thief, you haven't got a hope, but for the opportunist, kids and junkies (probably the guys most likely to try and break into a Gal), it may deter (one hopes).

 

It's that or wiring it up to the mains.

[Ivor_E_Tower]

Maybe there are times when they are useful - my car is parked close-ish to my bedroom window at night, but I set the alarm off on a previous car in a train station carpark one Saturday when there were loads of people around, and nobody turned round or came over to see what was the problem.

Sorry to hear of your loss, hope everything got sorted OK.

[Guest SA Intruder]

That's probably more to do with your other bad habits... :angry:

[Guest SA Intruder]

...excuse me Miss, you indulging in the act of frightfulness is giving me wood...

[ALARM MAN]

Well were do I start (hey its my job!!!)

Car Alarms are a deterrent especially outside your house WHY

COS ITS YOURS

In a car park it

[seatkid]

I prefer to keep it in the garage, have fully comp insurance, don't keep laptops etc. in the car B) plus live & work in a decent area....must remember to lock the car.....

 

Anyway Alhambras all have immobiliser/alarm gizmos as standard, dont they? :P

 

Apparently Sharalaxies are so unreliable its unlikely it could be driven away .... :lol: :lol:

[_dg]

I may have posted this before, but I use and thoroughly recommend this chap for all your car security needs

 

http://tinyurl.com/yrnv

 

:lol: :lol:

[Jim]

I heard (from a locksmith) that the code key can be by-passed by bump starting the car as the is an EU directive that immobolisers must deactivate above 15 mph - some safety directive.

 

Don't shoot the messenger, as I am only passing on what I have been told.

 

I personally use a decent steering wheel lock, as I think it's as good as anything. I think my car also has an alarm though.