Peugeot 307 Sw

[Guest jtwonk]

I'm considering changing the Galaxy for a Peugeot 307 SW as we only occassionaly use the 3rd row seats, & most the time there is only the wife & the 2 little ones in the car.

I know they aren't the most reliable but surely can't be worse than a Galaxy. Does anyone have a clue about reliability etc.

Also just comparing what we have to potentially what we will get IE 115PS galaxy change to 110ps 307 SW I have noticed that although the power is similar, the quoted torque seems massively different. (regardless whether it's the 1.6 or 2.0 HDi engine) torque quoted for HDi is 240Nm with overboost to 260Nm, but the galaxy is quoted as 310Nm. Is this 310Nm an absolute maximum inc overboost & if so what is the normal value,

 

Cheers

Jonathan

[johnb80]

Have a read at this months Car Mechanics mag, covers the 405 and parts prices will make your hair curl.

 

NO THANK YOU

 

Regards - JB

[Guest jtwonk]

What is so expensive? Can these parts not be bought at Euro car parts??

 

What about the engine does anyone have experience of the HDi? I know that the 1.6 HDi is the joint development with Ford having driven a C Max I thought it was pretty good incomparison to the VAG 1.9

[El Dingo]

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[morticiaskeeper]

I've used Pugs for work since the 205, the 405 was good, 306 & 309 were excellent, then came the 307 - oh dear!

 

My brother bought a new 307 petrol after writing off his previous car, sold it in under a year, it was totally gutless, dangerously slow on acceleration.

 

The 307SW we use at work is a god motorway car, quick enough to get into and out of trouble, did a very fast run down to Exeter in it last week, very impressive.

 

But, in 90k, it seems to have done more miles vertically on the ramps than on the road.

 

Lack of power, finally traced to a blocked exhaust.

Clutch.

Clutch release bearing is still rumbling.

Rear wash/wipe switch

[Guest StevePJ]

Don't do it. I bought one of these brand new last year.

 

After it constantly going wrong, and spending longer in the dealers than on my drive i finally had a meeting with the garage's MD who gave me a cheque for a full refund.

 

For a dealer to do that, you know it must have been bad.

[Guest jtwonk]

I understand that they are not the most reliable car, but no one can say the Galaxy is. What with air con problems, MAF sensor. Poor g/box selection when cold, Auxillary heater etc Need I go on.

I just think that they seem a good compromise for a family of 6 that only occasionally require the 6th seat. so that you don't need to haul a half empty Galaxy around most of the week.

In response to Morticiaskeeper. I understand what you're saying but these are company cars which will get abused like no private car would. At work we have had a selection of various cars which get hammered to death & no matter whether it was a BMW, Honda, Audi,Nissan or Citroen they all seemed to go wrong.

 

The blocked exhaust is due to driving style/conditions producing a lot of soot which blocks the DPF which doesn't get burnt off, therefore drastically reducing power. This happened to our C5 at work 'cos some one tootled around town for ages without hardly accelerating hard enough to get the turbo to spool up, therefore producing loads of soot blocking the DPF & because there was no exhaust gas temp it didn't burn off as intended. After a quick thrash all was fine for a long time. :P

[Bigjeeze]

I understand that they are not the most reliable car, but no one can say the Galaxy is. What with air con problems, MAF sensor. Poor g/box selection when cold, Auxillary heater etc Need I go on.

I just think that they seem a good compromise for a family of 6 that only occasionally require the 6th seat. so that you don't need to haul a half empty Galaxy around most of the week.

In response to Morticiaskeeper. I understand what you're saying but these are company cars which will get abused like no private car would. At work we have had a selection of various cars which get hammered to death & no matter whether it was a BMW, Honda, Audi,Nissan or Citroen they all seemed to go wrong.

 

The blocked exhaust is due to driving style/conditions producing a lot of soot which blocks the DPF which doesn't get burnt off, therefore drastically reducing power. This happened to our C5 at work 'cos some one tootled around town for ages without hardly accelerating hard enough to get the turbo to spool up, therefore producing loads of soot blocking the DPF & because there was no exhaust gas temp it didn't burn off as intended. After a quick thrash all was fine for a long time. :P

 

ITWonk

 

why have you asked the question if you have already made up your mind?

 

You asked the forum replied and you ignore it!! :D

 

 

There's no point in trying to sell the the 307 here it's crap - it's a lot less reliable than the Galaxy - if you read reviews on the Galaxy they do have a few complaints but nothing like the 307. :D

 

As for the "empty" 6th or 7th seat - so what if it's empty for a while - it'll save gas!! :D

 

Company cars tend to be more reliable and less troublesome as they usually have good servicing and the high mileages tend to keep problems away - it's "urban" vehicles - ie those that do short trips that have the most problems. :D

 

If you like the 307 and can sell yourself on it - Buy it! You just can't convince us! :P

[johnb80]

I couldn't have put it better myself. The Gals fuel consumption is so frugal I can't see any benefit going to something smaller, especially a 307.

 

Regards - JB

[mumof4]

I guess its frugal when you can put fuel into when you havent forgotten the filler cap key!! :lol:

 

When we do in a few years get another car..it will be another gal (tho not the new one as it looks like an elephant has sat on its bonnet), i like the way they handle,i like the height,and i like the shape.expensive to fix..but cheap on fuel.

 

Ok so they have problems, but so does every car. :ph34r:

 

 

i wont go for a car i dont like the look of..ok so im thinking cosmetically..but i do think it has something going for it. :lol:

[morticiaskeeper]

I guess you've made your mind up already, but one thing I can assure you, it wasn't the driving that caused the problems. I drive a variety of vehicles for my job, working for a certain main dealer, in 20 years of driving, I've never had a problem of that sort, the other driver of this particular is even faster than me :ph34r:

 

While I agree that pootling around town could cause problems in an older car, with closed loop lambda systems, the mixture will be right whatever the driving conditions.

 

The suspension mounting that needed welding was a bit of a problem too.

 

Do something right and 2 people will be told, do something wrong and 10 people will be told.