Servo ?

[Philwalfc]

Hi Everyone,

Is it just a coincidence?. I had to take my battery off at the weekend to charge it up. I took it off on Friday evenin, and didn't put it back on untill Sunday morning. I went out about an hour later and had a shock when I had to virtually stand on my brake pedal to stop the Galaxy. The brake pedal was rock hard. I was just wondering if the two were related.

 

Cheers Phil

[Guest JaseB]

Hi, I've had nothing but trouble with my brakes so I know the system pretty intimatly now,

 

The vacuum for the servo is generated by a mechanical pump (diesel only) mounted on the front right hand side (pre 2001) the pipe that comes of that then goes around the back to the servo and then splits off to the turbo unit itself.

 

Check you may have no Turbo power either, There is also a one way valve that can fail within one of the pipes (don't know which one sorry ).

 

I would check the pipework first to see if there are any splits, (

[Philwalfc]

Thanks JaseB, just got back in from work and seen your reply. I'll have a good look at the pipes to see if there are any splits. I have just done a search on the subject and found the topic you started about brakes. Anyone got photos of these pipes and Vacuum pump. I see Masked Marauder suggested testing the Servo by pumping the brakes. My brakes are solid without pumping them up and do not change when I start the Galaxy. I just thought it odd that the brakes have gone like this after disconnecting the battery for a day and a half.

 

Cheers Phil

[Guest JaseB]

With there being no servo at all it must be total vacuum loss, so totally disconected pipe, no vacuum from the pump(pump failure , everyone keeps telling me there's very little chance the sevo itself fails. but ??????.

 

Obviously the servo is the big black bowl on the bulkhead (back left) there is one black pipe coming off this going to the right, this pipe leads around the back of the engine and eventually to the vacuum pump, this is on the front right hand side of the engine, if I remember correctly it has a flat top with a single pipe coming straight out of the top (the same type of pipe that connects to servo.

 

Sorry I have no pici's but hope this helps

[Philwalfc]

Thanks again JaseB, I think I will have a look on Saturday whilst off work.

 

Cheers Phil

[Bandito]

If i remember correctly a way of testing the servo is with the engine not running pump brake pedal until hard then with foot still pressing on pedal start engine if servo is working pedal should move towards floor an inch or so.

[Philwalfc]

Just a quick update. Sorry, I meant to post this a few days ago. I checked the vacuum pipe from the servo to the vacuum pump, it comes in two pieces with a plastic connector in the middle. I think this helps with routing the vacuum pipe round the engine. There was a split in the end that connects to the servo, a split on the other end of this pipe that joins up to the plastic connector, also a split that joins the other side of the plastic connector going down to the vacuum pump. Here are some pics of the perished pipe from servo to connector. Spoke to Ford parts and they say that they have never heard of these pipes splitting before. Cost for supply only for these two half pipes?

[Philwalfc]

Pics

[Topbloke]

you can buy reinforced servo pipe by the metre but its rubber with a metal reinforcer around it cut to lenght and jubilee clips sorted but watch out for the sharp bits they hurt.what part of the country are you in i have some in the garage if its any use to you

[Philwalfc]

Cheers for the offer Topbloke. I am in Walsall, West Midlands. I guess that reinforced pipe is stronger than the original from Ford. Just wonder if it will feed around the engine properly. Oh,sorry about the size of the images. Don't know how to make them smaller. :lol:

[Topbloke]

no its rubber because the plastic ones split and thats what we were supplied with as replacement as the ends are heat shrunk on just cut the plastic with a knife and cut pipe to lenght then push on ends and tighten clips far better than plastic the reinforcement is to stop it collapsing and to give it some rigiditty (is that spelt right)

[AndeeeH]

Philwalfc Mar 6 2006, 21:40:20

 

Oh,sorry about the size of the images. Don't know how to make them smaller.

 

Hi Phil,

if you have 'Paint' on your computer open the image in Paint then select Image then Stretch/Skew and put a smaller no. in both the vertical and horizontal boxes, try 30% in each. Then save the image as a jpeg and it should be smaller in both actual and file size. :lol: Andy.

[Philwalfc]

Cheers Guys,

Sounds like it's well worth a go with the reinforced piping. Where would I get this piping from. Any pointers would be great. Oh, heres a re-sized picture after my masterclass in editing.

[Topbloke]

try a reputable motor factor ,motor serve, cas if they dont stock it they could possible tell you where to source some from