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Hello,

Does anyone know where i can get my hands on some cheapish pd engine oil (for the v.w. pump deuse) engine.My gal is due for an oil change and v.w. want

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Does anyone know why Ford Formula SD has changed from Semi Synthetic

to Full Synthetic over the last 8 months? Just ordering mine for the service

to be told that the number I had has been replaced by the number listed by

Hijacker but now synthetic?

Posted

I wonder if Ford have got this right Marky?? :blink:

 

I've bought PD oil from both Ford and VW in the last 8 months and they have always supplied semi-synthetic. My local Ford garage has also had to order the oil in so I don't think it's old stock lying around.

 

The Ford guy agreed the FINIS number had changed and the price has also gone up but couldn't explain why!!

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I suppose the oil may have been improved, or Ford may just be taking advantage of the fact that the distinction between mineral / semi-synthetic / synthetic / fully sythetic oils has become somewhat blurred in recent times.

 

The problem is that where there were once 2 distinct types of oil (ie: mineral and synthetic), this has become more of a continuum. Some very highly refined mineral oils can now apparently be referred to as 'synthetic', and in terms of most of their lubricating properties this is probably OK. Where these tend to fall short of 'true' synthetics the most is in their pour points, but in most climates, this is of little consequence.

 

Most synthetic oils are now a blend of these very highly refined mineral base oils, PAO's and esters (in ascending order of cost). For example, this is exactly what the latest Mobil 1 tri-synthetic oil is.

 

So, basically, the cheapest oils will be mineral oils, as the the price rises (and small amounts of sythetic base oils are added) they start to be called semi-synthetics, and at some vaguely defined point at which the base oils are of sufficiently high quality, they start to be called synthetics.

 

Insofar as price relates to cost, this is a reasonably good indication as to the quality of the oil. But, the most important thing for PD engines is to use an oil to VW 505.01.

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Hijacker...Gal in at the dealers today for flywheel recall and 30k service!

 

Ordered the parts from the parts dept and they gave me...

 

FORD FORMULA E 5W-40 SPEC!

 

Told the guy it was the wrong oil and gave him the old number I had (1130310)

to be told that it had been replaced by 1343522 and he came back with a nice

5 litre can of FORMULA S/SD Fully Synthetic...checked the back of this can and

it lists it as 505.01 spec so happy with that (the forumla e he gave me in the

first place did not list the 505.01 spec).

I checked the can of the old Formula SD and its deffo semi...I'll post a piccie of the cans when I get the motor back in two days (hopefully with everything crossed!)

Posted
Hijacker...Gal in at the dealers today for flywheel recall and 30k service!

 

Ordered the parts from the parts dept and they gave me...

 

FORD FORMULA E 5W-40 SPEC!

 

Told the guy it was the wrong oil and gave him the old number I had (1130310)

to be told that it had been replaced by 1343522 and he came back with a nice

5 litre can of FORMULA S/SD Fully Synthetic...checked the back of this can and

it lists it as 505.01 spec so happy with that (the forumla e he gave me in the

first place did not list the 505.01 spec).

I checked the can of the old Formula SD and its deffo semi...I'll post a piccie of the cans when I get the motor back in two days (hopefully with everything crossed!)

Don't you just love Ford !! They are so dumb !! :blink:

 

I used to put Forumla E in my old Zetec Ford engines. They don't know he-haw about the VW TDI and yet they insist it is correct and they use it whilst servicing. "Just comes out of one drum" is what they usually say.

 

I'll keep an eye out for the photo.

 

Good luck with your clutch replacement. :blink:

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