Guest CheemaD Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 I find annoying about my 2001 1.9tdi AUY is that the engine does not like to be driven in 4th gear at 30mph, even on flat roads. noisy and annoying engine sounds laboured until I hit 35mph at least. Its my 1st ever diesel so it could be a characteristic of a diesel engine. I don't know. I pain in streets that are full of 30mph speed cameras and old bill with not much to do. Anybody else noticed this with their TDIs. Mines a VW 1.9TDI 2001 115psi engine code AUY. Thanks Dal Quote
Guest blatters Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 Agreed, I can just about engage 4th gear at 30ish. But down to 3rd the minute the traffic slows. At 40mph you can engage 5th I have the same engine as you. I think a lot of the guys go for the auto box on the Galaxy. I'm not a huge fan of the autobox because I prefer the low revs at the top end, better mpg and generally being more in control. But the auto is a boon in town when I guess those guys don't have to worry about gear changing. The manual gearbox can be quite laborious if you're driving in traffic a lot. We bought our Galaxy with motorway / autobahn long haul trips in mind and it hasn't disapointed. But town work is no fun. Blatters Quote
Guest MATT Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 [quote name='blatters' date='Feb 7 2006, 16:57:48'] ...and generally being more in control. [/quote] oooooooo be careful! you could start a right debate on auto Vs manual lol i think my auto can do it, but then again, totally different gearbox! lol not had a manual diesel galaxy, but slightly surprised at that, most manuals i have been unfortunate enough to drive, go along in 4th at 30 MATT Quote
malcolm.dobell Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 What is "wrong" with 30 in third. This is characteristic of lots of cars these days. Indeed it might help you keep to the limit. In mine I have a rule - 30=3rd, 40=4th,50=5th, 60=6th It works! Quote
Guest vr6galaxy Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 [quote name='malcolm.dobell' date='Feb 7 2006, 19:48:43'] What is "wrong" with 30 in third. This is characteristic of lots of cars these days. Indeed it might help you keep to the limit. In mine I have a rule - 30=3rd, 40=4th,50=5th, 60=6th It works! [/quote] Damn! that explains why we find TDI's sitting in the middle lane chugging along at 55/60mph Quote
johnb80 Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 [quote name='malcolm.dobell' date='Feb 7 2006, 19:48:43'] What is "wrong" with 30 in third. This is characteristic of lots of cars these days. Indeed it might help you keep to the limit. In mine I have a rule - 30=3rd, 40=4th,50=5th, 60=6th It works! [/quote] And whats the consequence of breaking "The Rule", how on earth do you go backwards ? or do you mark the lever -10 What gear do you engage for 45? Sounds a bit tricky to me, I'll stick with my auto thanks. My Auto drops into 5th at 35mph, no drama, no problem, seems quite happy. Regards - JB Quote
_dg Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 You have to forget the actual gear as its just a meaningless number, and change when the engine and conditions dictate. Its just pyschological trying to think that a certain speed has to mean a certain gear The rev counter may be a more useful indicator than the numbers on the gear knob. Or fit a vacuum guage to help in economical gear changes Quote
Bigjeeze Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 In the words of the prophet " Who gives a Monkeys?" So you have to keep it in 3rd or 4th - big deal! Mine will chug along in 4th @ 30mph but as long as I don't set off the Speed Camera's I can live with it Seriously I wouldn't worry about it - Just stick to the speed limit in 3rd or 4th or if you are lucky maybe 5th. Hell think of all the wear & tear you are saving on 5th & 6th!! My Grandad used to say that if the car would do the speed he wanted he did'nt care what gear he was in - mind you he ruined a lot of cars like that - it all came of driving a tractor all day!! Quote
seatkid Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 Trade down to a 90bhp AHU or 1Z engine. They can plod along at 30mph in fifth no problem. Tractor technology at its very best! Quote
johnb80 Posted February 8, 2006 Report Posted February 8, 2006 [quote name='_dg' date='Feb 7 2006, 22:02:03'] Or fit a vacuum guage to help in economical gear changes [/quote] Not on a diesel it won't, especially a turbo diesel Regards - JB Quote
katman Posted February 8, 2006 Report Posted February 8, 2006 [quote name='malcolm.dobell' date='Feb 7 2006, 19:48:43']In mine I have a rule - 30=3rd, 40=4th,50=5th, 60=6th[/quote] Now I know why my Galaxy wont do more than 59mph..... I havent got 6th, 7th or 8th gear Mine isnt really happy below 33-34 in 4th (2.0 petrol) but I have found that with most modern cars I have driven. I guess the gearing on modern cars is a lot different to older vehicles partly to get the fuel economy. Probably also partially explains why in a 30mph zone everyone tends to travel at around 35mph as they have changed into 4th ! Quote
sasquartch Posted February 8, 2006 Report Posted February 8, 2006 My 115TDi manual will quite happily do 30mph in 5th, the diesel is much rougher than a petrol engine but even at 1500rpm theres plenty of pulling power. If the engine will readily pull from such low revs then I dont think it's straining it. I'm normally in 5th by 40 at the most anyway but 6th is only really for 60mph+ Quote
katman Posted February 8, 2006 Report Posted February 8, 2006 [quote name='sasquartch' date='Feb 8 2006, 10:50:54'] My 115TDi manual will quite happily do 30mph in 5th [/quote] My previous car was an old Pug 309 GLD with 280K on the clock. That would also happily pull from about 28mph in 5th. Not exactly a speedmobile but a dependable tank that just went on....and on...and on. Quote
Bigjeeze Posted February 8, 2006 Report Posted February 8, 2006 [quote name='katman' date='Feb 8 2006, 11:47:32'] Not exactly a speedmobile but a dependable tank that just went on....and on....and on..... [/quote] A bit like this topic!!!!! Quote
johnb80 Posted February 8, 2006 Report Posted February 8, 2006 Well start another if you're fed up with this one and stop moaning Quote
Scorpiorefugee Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 Both of mine are quite happy at 30 in 5th and pull away happily unless I want to burn rubber, but I gave that up 40 years ago so it's not an issue. As for keeping to the limit, with limited accelleration, its easy. Quote
Bigjeeze Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 [quote name='johnb80' date='Feb 8 2006, 21:55:38'] Well start another if you're fed up with this one and stop moaning [/quote] No... this one still has some mileage in it!! Quote
Masked Marauder Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 I checked this earlier, I can do down to about 25 in fourth and still pull away. Mine is a 110bhp AFN. Quote
mumof4 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 I always listen to the engine and annoy the other half by telling him to change when the engine reaches the "pitch" ,....but he just mumbles summit about back seat drivers and tests!! Quote
bigdaddy Posted February 9, 2006 Report Posted February 9, 2006 I dont know about diesels and manuals,,,,,,but my 2.3 auto go's into 4th at 34mph and will stay there till about 27mph,,,,if i gentle accelarate it will stay in 4th Quote
Guest JaseB Posted February 12, 2006 Report Posted February 12, 2006 Have you thought about an add on chip for the diesel, these will add bhp and torque which in turn will help low speed and high gear, my 110tdi run comfortably at 30 in 4th and pulls away, if you have the pd engine you can pick these units up cheap. If you are a carefull driver you should gain mpg, but obviously will loose if you use the extra power for shear eceleration gain. if you have a 90bhp it should take it to about 110bhp or if you have 110 it should take it to about 130bhp, Its also cheaper than a new car !! Quote
big_kev Posted February 12, 2006 Report Posted February 12, 2006 Might as well put my tuppence worth in. My diesel ( before it went a bit doo lally ) coped quite well at 30mph in 4th as most diesels do, this is a diesel charecteristic. Its petrol engines that do not like the low revs. I used to set the cruise control at 30mph and it would happily pull up hills in 4th. I think you may have a power problem. Also on the subject of auto's versus manuals it is my experience that most ( if not all ) people who do not like auto's have never driven them. For example, difference on motorways or dual carraigeways----none whatsoever you don't really change gear enough to notice. Difference about town, no comparison auto is so much better. Mpg , the auto gearbox is so much heavier, take a manual chuck a couple of bags of cement in the back and it will perform pretty much the same. Usually Autos are slightly better as they tend to make the driver less throttle happy. and yes I am having a bad day ! Quote
Guest MATT Posted February 12, 2006 Report Posted February 12, 2006 my auto will do 30mph in 4th and do 1,200 revs - and is happy it will even tow my caravan (unladen) on the flat in 4th at 30mph. MATT Quote
Ivor Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 Something is wrong here. I sometimes drive at 30mph in 6th. Ok, you cant pull away, you need to change down to 5th/4th, or if uphill to 3rd. Quote
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