sad_git Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 I am thinking of DIY fitting an LPG conversion to my Gal. As the engine has to start and warm up on petrol and it will only used for short journeys, would I be wasting my time? I have read various posts on the subject of LPG and know that there are differing opinions as to the safety of gas on the forum. Having done some research on the subject I am satisfied that it is safe. Has anyone out there got a 2.3 Gal with a sequential gas system who can tell me roughly how far they have to drive before switching to gas? Quote
Guest marcusheawood Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 Yes you'd be wasting your time and money. Quote
Guest vr6galaxy Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 2.8VR6 on LPG :rolleyes: ours takes as long as it takes to lock the front door, strap the kids in and drive 30/40m down the road! you can get kits that start on lLPG only, there are a few places that sell DIY LPG kits, hres a couple to get you started....... http://www.lpg-kits.com/index.htm this company get good reveiws and are said to be very helpful http://www.tinleytech.co.uk/index.html oh! and dont forget on a 2.3 you may need a flashlube kit! as IIRC the 2.3 has soft valve seats? Quote
Guest vr6galaxy Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 Yes you'd be wasting your time and money. Why? Quote
Guest bosbax Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 Had a sequetial system fitted 10 months ago,the fuel vapouriser needs to see 30degrees before it will auto switch to gas,this usually takes around 1.5--2 miles.No need for any extra lube system as the engine is a Mazda design and everything from Japan from the early seventies uses hardened valve seats and valves.System fitted is a Romano.Richie. Quote
Guest marcusheawood Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 ...Be-cause VR6Galaxy, he doesn't do enough mileage to make a proper conversion cost effective. I have a VR6 like you do dude, and my wife uses it for the school run and shopping! I am an LPG believer (but not an evangelist!) but I have done the sums and it really ain't worth it. I use my trusty diesel van for work and this does the bulk of the mileage. Also I don't want a toroidal tank for the safety reasons I've previously mentioned on this subject. He will NOT halve his running costs and the cost of converting buys an awful lot of extra petrol. And the car in question is a 2.3, which is more economical than ours to begin with. Quote
greg_68 Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 If you don't mind me asking is anyone willing to disclose how much they paid for their conversion. Cheers. Quote
sad_git Posted September 14, 2005 Author Report Posted September 14, 2005 According to trip computer over the last 70 hours running the average consumption is 14.5mpg. I am probably in a similar position to Marcus, wife uses Gal and I have company van. Her average journey is about 1 or 2 miles but this can be several times a day so the engine stays warm throughout the day. The annual mileage is approx 4000, so by my calculation it would take about 18 months to recoup the initial cost. 4000 miles @ 14.5 mpg = 276 Gal = 1255.8 litresPetrol 1255.8 X 95p = Quote
Guest marcusheawood Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 Another problem here; if your 2.3 does 14.5 MPG then either your wife has a serious issue with driving style or your car is ill! My VR6 does better'n that even when I (occasionally) drive it! :unsure: Quote
johnb80 Posted September 15, 2005 Report Posted September 15, 2005 According to trip computer over the last 70 hours running the average consumption is 14.5mpg. I am probably in a similar position to Marcus, wife uses Gal and I have company van. Her average journey is about 1 or 2 miles but this can be several times a day so the engine stays warm throughout the day. The annual mileage is approx 4000, so by my calculation it would take about 18 months to recoup the initial cost. 4000 miles @ 14.5 mpg = 276 Gal = 1255.8 litresPetrol 1255.8 X 95p = Quote
morticiaskeeper Posted September 15, 2005 Report Posted September 15, 2005 Mine switches over to gas as soon as I pull away. In the summer I can fool the system into starting on gas, but when it's colder it gets a bit hesitant. I spend about Quote
greg_68 Posted September 15, 2005 Report Posted September 15, 2005 Another problem here; if your 2.3 does 14.5 MPG then either your wife has a serious issue with driving style or your car is ill! My VR6 does better'n that even when I (occasionally) drive it! :unsure: I bet it doesn't for the first mile or so like the OP said his wife is currently doing. My trip for the first mile coming out of work into traffic uphill etc reads approx 5mpg. 14mpg for the first 2 mile isn't that unusual. Quote
sad_git Posted September 16, 2005 Author Report Posted September 16, 2005 Don,t think there's a problem with the car, we recently did a round trip of about 400 miles on motorways. At a steady 70 mph the average was 30mpg which is about right for the 2.3. My wifes driving style is not helping, throttle only has 2 positions, on and off! I wouldn't even consider converting if I had to pay any more than Quote
seatkid Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 What about insurance? Is it a problem? Some companies baulk at the idea of even fitting dangly fluffy dice! Quote
johnb80 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Posted September 17, 2005 Insurance isn't usually a problem provided you have it professionally installed and have a certificate from the installer. Regards - JB Quote
sad_git Posted September 17, 2005 Author Report Posted September 17, 2005 I would get it inspected by a qualified installer and get a certificate for the insurance company if they need it. The car is covered by my business policy so I doubt they would need to know but I would tell them anyway just in case. (I don't need to give details of each vehicle owned). Quote
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