99 Tdi Zetec - Or Maybe Not !

[Karapaul]

Hi Folks

 

I have (what I thought was) a 09/99 1.9 TDi Zetec - that's what the logbook tells me. It's the pre-facelift older style.

 

I seem to learn something new about the Galaxies each day - but each time it only opens more questions for me.

 

For example,

When I bought my Gal a few months ago, I was told by the seller that externally, although it does not have a Zetec badge, you can tell it is a Zetec by the red border of the TDi badge ........ since then a fellow member of this list has advised me that the red border has nothing to do with Zetec - it means 110 bhp ...... Which one is right ???

 

The seller also advised that even the Ghia versions don't have the "much sought after" Zetec engine. Recently I met someone with a 99 Ghia TDi and their TDi badge also had the red border !?!?!?! - (though it might have been an aftermarket paint job ?) ..... and the Ghia owner told me that he definitely did not have a Zetec engine but when he showed me under the bonnet, it looked just the same as mine.

This prompts another question ..... What are the differences between a standard Tdi engine and a Zetec ????

 

A friend told me that the Zetec Tdi was twin cam ???? - mine certainly isn't ! ..... maybe I have been sold a duff Zetec - that isn't a Zetec ???

My Tdi Zetec looks original (including the motor). It has the usual Zetec spec (as far as I can tell): Roof rails, nice big, wide 7 x 16 alloys, tinted rears, aircon, 2006R radio/cassette, 7 seats ... but no towbar connector in the rear light cluster compartment as currently discussed in another topic on this forum. I can't see the engine number clearly but it looks like it might be the AFN type which I think denotes 110 bhp ????

 

I have checked TIS but strangely the Zetec Tdi Galaxy is not mentioned !!!! Why not ?

Can anyone answer any of my many queries above please ?

Have I got a TDi Zetec or have I been conned ?

 

Cheers

Paul

[seatkid]

The diesel engines fitted in Galaxies, Sharans and Alhambras are all VW units. There is no such thing as a "twin cam" VW Tdi engine. The AFN prefix and the red border on the Tdi badge confirm this is the 110bhp variant of the unit (with Bosch distributor pump i.e. not the later PD engine)

 

The same engines are available throughout the Galaxy range. Reference to the "much sort after Zetec engine" is sales speak...roughly translated it means "I'm pi**ing up your back don't you know?"

 

"Zetec" on a Galaxy refers to a trim and equipment level.

 

To confuse people, Ford do do "Zetec engines", but these are Ford's petrol engines....

[Guest vr6galaxy]

Zetec was added to the range in 98/99 in pre face lift models along with LX and Ghia, prior to this you had Aspen, GLX, Si, Ghia and Ghia X and as SK says the reason for the confusion is that Ford have a range of engines labeled Zetec as well as a trim level called Zetec :(

[Karapaul]

Thanks SeatKid

 

Very interesting info - and reassuring too.

So it looks as if I have been given some duff info (as I imagined - hence this topic) but at least I now know that I do have a "bona fide" Zetec 110 Tdi.

 

I am disappointed that there isn't such a thing as a diesel Zetec engine - IMO Ford have played a dirty trick by using the Zetec name to describe an equipment/trim level that has nothing to do with Zetec technology. B*st**ds ! - they mislead me ... and probably many others ..... I know that I am not the only one with a wet back !!!!!

 

Cheers

Paul

[Dave-G]

:( The dealer and your "FRIEND" are talking out of their tailgates when mentioning Zetec :(

 

:( The confusion is caused by the "zetec" buzzword (THE ENGINE to have in a mondeo) being exploited by ford.

 

:huh: Depending on the strenth of your friendships with "FRIEND" and "DEALER" may I suggest you tell them they are sadly missinformed pratts? :o

[Ivor]

I'd rather have a VW diesel than a Ford anyday, think yourself lucky.

 

As far I am aware, its the same engine as they put in the passat, golf and some audi's

[Karapaul]

I know I am lucky .....

 

Many years ago, I had the unfortunate experience of owning a slow, noisy, smelly diesel Ford Transit - with the notorious "Yorkie" engine. I remember it well .... it cost me a bomb in quickstart until it finally blew up - so what did I then do? .... I put a 3 litre V6 Granada engine in it of course!

One good thing about the old Ford diesels - you never had to worry about undersealing them to prevent corrosion - the engine did it for you !

[johnb80]

ALL diesels were like that in the past, the new ones are a totally different animal. My LWB Transit has now done 110,000 in 2 years, drives like new, starts first turn and is quiet, reliable and doesn't use a drop of oil between changes. The Duratorq engine is brilliant.

[Guest T120]

By the way; all Zetec engines are twin cam sixteen valve Ford designed engines of varying sizes from 1400cc and upwards and fitted in different models of car. :angry:

I have a very good friend whose a Ford Mechanic and he wont have a Ford Diesel either. :)

[Taliska]

Well, Seatkid's not really quite right about the double overhead camshaft diesel: :)

 

Remember VW = Audi = SEAT = Skoda etc

 

The big diesel A8's spec:

 

A8 4.0 TDI quattro Sport Tiptronic LWB

 

Engine/electrics:

     

Engine type  V8 turbodiesel engine with two VTG turbochargers, DOHC; TDI direct injection. 

 

Displacement, cm

[Taliska]

It gets even better if you look at the VW Touareg diesels.

 

There's a V10 5.0L 313PS TDI engine - if that's not a DOHC...

 

Taliska

[seatkid]

When can we have one of those in a Shalaxy?  :angry:

Think about it....do you really want a car with four cats, two turbochargers,two ECU's, twin MAFs, cambelts, and an incompetent service network? :)

All important components are arranged in pairs, i.e. one per cylinder bank. These include the air filter, the hot film air flow meter, the turbocharger, the charge cooler, the exhaust gas recirculation (line and valve) and the throttle valves. As a result, in purely construction-related terms, the V10 consists of two five-cylinder engines where the air and exhaust are completely separated, but which are coupled in terms of mechanics and control.

Not to mention 16.5mpg URBAN consumption :) ! (auto V10 Tdi)

[Taliska]

Oh yes, I forgot - I bought a diesel for economic reasons. :)

 

I see your point about the servicing too. :angry:

 

Would go quick though! :)

 

Taliska

[Guest T120]

For the attection of Dave-G

 

Extract From a Haynes Escort / Orion manual. Engine description:-

 

The Zetec engine, (formaly Zeta) is of sixteen-valve, double overhead camshaft (DOHC) four cyclinder, inline type, mounted transversely at the front of the vehical, with the transmision on the left hand end. The Zetec-E engine is virtuly identical to the Zetec unit apart from revisions to the intake system and emission control system components.

 

Now who's talking through his tail gate????????? :lol:

 

By the way does the "G" stand for gate B)

[seatkid]

I seemed to have lost track somewhere, what did poor ol Dave G say that brought such an obscure but pointed response? :lol:

[GSMGuy]

It gets even better if you look at the VW Touareg diesels.

 

There's a V10 5.0L 313PS TDI engine - if that's not a DOHC...

 

Taliska

Never mind the 313ps - what about the 550nm of torque!!!!

 

Mike

[seatkid]

Never mind the 313ps - what about the 550nm of torque!!!!

That'll sort the Jatco box out..... :lol:

[Dave-G]

:huh: Er...well he's lost me too :o

 

B) It sounds like T120 thinks I imply that the zetec was exclusivley in the mondeo,when I was actually stating that the ZETEC engine was the most preferable in a mondeo, well it was "the one to have" in my state blue 94 M reg LX estate:blink:

 

:P Johnb80 might even be able to remember the registration number, or a relevant part of it :lol:

 

B) You're not the "friend" in question are you T120 B)

[GSMGuy]

Never mind the 313ps - what about the 550nm of torque!!!!

That'll sort the Jatco box out..... :lol:

Don't mention the J word!

 

She's coming home later today or tomorrow B) Can't wait to be shut of this hire car - only done 400 odd miles in it, cost me over

[Guest mr sensible]

My 2001 registered (x reg) Zetec 110tdi has no badge. Is there any particular reasonfor this?

 

PS. It hasn't been pinched either

[Ivor_E_Tower]

It's fallen off, been prized off or else the tailgate has been repaired after an accident and not properly "restored" (I take it you mena no badges at all - there isn't a Zetec badge).

[Guest MATT]

My 2001 registered (x reg) Zetec 110tdi has no badge. Is there any particular reasonfor this?

 

PS. It hasn't been pinched either

are you on about the ford badge, or the TDI badge, i believe both are purchasable from your dealer, at reasonable price.

 

matt :lol:

[Guest MATT]

A8 4.0 TDI quattro Sport Tiptronic LWB