Clutch Stuff

[rushy]

Can anyone shed some light??

 

Just recently had new clutch, master & slave cylinder fitted to my Gal.

 

Before she went in, every so often the clutch would go, I'd need to pump the pedal like there's no tomorrow to build up pressure.

 

Got it back and was told by "transmision expert" to take it easy for a while and continue to do what I'd been doing (pumping pedal) for a while until the clutch system had self bled itself.

 

Is this correct? He's shown me the old parts, so I know that replacements have been fitted, it was also a warranty job.

 

Just seems wierd that the clutch would continue to require pumping so as not to lose the pedal completely if all was new. Surely the system could be bled with something like an ez-bleed??

 

Cheers

[Topbloke]

we normally just bleed it and thats it , seem's a bit strange but give it a try for a few day's/ week's and see what happens if you aint happy it will be under warranty anyway

[Guest vr6galaxy]

IIRC there is a bleed nipple on top of the clutch housing, it pokes through the rubber gaitor, it sounds like bleeding the system is to much like hard work for them!

your right in your thinking about the ez-bleed kit being used, it's virtually the same method as bleeding the brakes but pushing down on a different pedal

[rushy]

The ez-bleed i've got, you just fill with fluid, replace the resevoir cap with the cap of the ez-bleed, attach pipe to an inflated tyre, release bleed nipple then hey presto!!

 

Where 'bouts am I looking on a '96 2.8 V6 for the bleed nipple??

 

Cheers guys and sorry for repeating the thread, my computer went off on one!!!

[Guest vr6galaxy]

From what I can gather it pokes out of the rubber gaitor on top of the gearbox bell houseing, follow the pipe work down into the gearbox bell houseing and where it enters through the gaitor you should be able to see the bleed nipple pokeing out

if the system is still bleeding it's self then the fluid level is dropping? if this drops to far the brake system warning light will illuminate! the clutch and brakes share the same reservoir, if the fluid level drops the brakes will still work as they have priority over the remaining fluid! not to worry you at all .......... :D

[Masked Marauder]

'scuse me seeming simple, but if the system could bleed it's self, would we not have self bleeding brakes too?

 

I doubt very much that the system can bleed it's self.

[Masked Marauder]

Well there ya go, TIS says bleed by opening the nipple and bleeding in the normal manner.

[Guest vr6galaxy]

Well there ya go, TIS says bleed by opening the nipple and bleeding in the normal manner.

I do hope you are little bit gentler with nipples when attached to the opposite sex! :o

[rushy]

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Have bled system twice!!!

 

Each time the pedal has been very good, untill about twenty mins later where it starts going soft again!!

 

Have now traced the problem, having been worried about leaking fittings or a hole in the pipe, back to the resevoir cap!!

 

When the pedal is pressed or de-pressed, air can be heard being sucked in, and it's possible to see bubbles coming out.

 

Ordered one today from Fraud!! who told me that there has been problems with the caps (Mine Gal being a 96 2.8V6) and there had been a recall on them (having recently bought the car I wouldn't know if mine was affected or recified)

 

So there we go boys and girls, hopefull an end to cluch pumping!! I must get down the gym to work the muscles on my right leg now!!!!!!!

[Dave-G]

:) Would those bubbles be rising through the fluid, or merely displaced air escaping past a wet seal of the cap and producing bubbles? :)

[johnb80]

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Have bled system twice!!!

 

Each time the pedal has been very good, untill about twenty mins later where it starts going soft again!!

 

Have now traced the problem, having been worried about leaking fittings or a hole in the pipe, back to the resevoir cap!!

 

When the pedal is pressed or de-pressed, air can be heard being sucked in, and it's possible to see bubbles coming out.

 

Ordered one today from Fraud!! who told me that there has been problems with the caps (Mine Gal being a 96 2.8V6) and there had been a recall on them (having recently bought the car I wouldn't know if mine was affected or recified)

 

So there we go boys and girls, hopefull an end to cluch pumping!! I must get down the gym to work the muscles on my right leg now!!!!!!!

Don't see how a faulty cap is going to get air into the hydraulic system. It sounds more like a duff cylinder master or slave, my guess would be master cylinder where the pushrod enters. The cap should have a very small hole to admit air as the fluid drops due to wear etc on pads / clutch.

 

Regards - JB

[Dave-G]

IIRC the "caps" problem was that they let in water dripping from above?

[Guest Dunny]

The caps have to let in air or the reservoir would air lock.

[rushy]

Damn it!!! Thought I'd cracked the problem.

 

I'll fit the new cap and see what happens, hopefully it isn't a faulty slave or master cylinder seeing as that's the whole reason it went it and both were replaced!!