OIL TYPE USED - TDI ONLY

[tim-spam]

Comma do a fully synthetic oil that meets the 505.01 standard - I believe it's the same as Esso Ultron. The thing is, they appear to have done their market research - around

[jackthehat.co.uk]

Hell's delight! I didn't realise the oil type was THAT critical!!!

 

I'll check the new stuff tomorrow and return it if it isn't the magic 505.01! The worrying thing is that I just don't believe that Fraud dealers will have the knowledge that you people have. I must remember to tell them about the 505.01 oil when she has her service. Glad I joned this forum!

 

Thanks folks!

[NikpV]

:huh: :huh: :lol:

 

if you use a ford dealer

 

Formula SD and ask them for the other 0.5l in the container, useful as top ups if needed, also if its still overfilled they may have overlooked changing the filter :o apparently :lol:

[Guest Cepheus]

wow thats some thread - just took me 2 hours reading it all in work!

 

Conclusion:

Glad I've got a petrol engine! :huh:

[jkspoff]

wow thats some thread - just took me 2 hours reading it all in work!

 

Conclusion:

Glad I've got a petrol engine! :lol:

 

 

Yeah, you don't realise that a threads going to turn into an epic when you start it ! :huh:

[tim-spam]

wow thats some thread - just took me 2 hours reading it all in work!

 

Conclusion:

Glad I've got a petrol engine! :huh:

Yes, but you still spent 2 hours reading this thread......

[Guest mcyoungy]

Just phoned round for oil...local Ford dealer quoted me

[amsoil]

I use Amsoil, Just done a full service at 137,000miles which is only the 4th oil change! The 'old' oil had done 38,000 and passed lab analysis; so I was a bit gutted to have already changed it. You generally get what you pay for with oils but be careful as the 'synthetics' in the

[Guest mcyoungy]

which Amsoil? there seem to be a few

[Guest Cepheus]

wow thats some thread - just took me 2 hours reading it all in work!

 

Conclusion:

Glad I've got a petrol engine! :)

Yes, but you still spent 2 hours reading this thread......

 

Was an enjoyable 2 hours too! There are some good debates and even better information contained within .... certainly made me realise there is more to oil than just cooking chips in it!

[BrummyGit]

The poll needs a "I'd like to use the correct Ford specified oil, but who knows what rubbish the dealer is putting into my car out of his drum even though I pay the the correct grade" option.

[jkspoff]

The poll needs a "I'd like to use the correct Ford specified oil, but who knows what rubbish the dealer is putting into my car out of his drum even though I pay the the correct grade" option.

 

Too right, thats why I never trust them and do my own oil changes. Its a fact that my local dealer uses a 'one for all' oil as they've admitted it to me in the past before I started doing my own changes !

[richyrich]

No, not really, I use Vauxhall semi-synthetic.

I used fully synthetic oil meeting correct spec -505.01 but I still had my engine blow up. When I put into Fraud they asked me what I wanted them to do - thet didn't have a clue where to start. Because of personal reasons I ended up having a new engine fitted - expensive!!

I have a vag com lead - where did you get the software for it and what version do I need? Y reg 1.9 115 pd

[tim-spam]

What went wrong with the engine when it 'blew up'?

[mumof4]

What went wrong with the engine when it 'blew up'?

 

It went......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BOOM!!!!!!!!

 

sorry......couldnt resist. :P

[big_kev]

Points to remember........

 

Remember that it is better to use a cheap oil and change it more often than use an expensive oil and change it less.

 

After a couple of thousand miles your expensive oil is worse than a new ultra cheapo.

 

Cheap diesel rated oil is better than any ultra synthetic non-diesel oil ( when used in a diesel engine ).

 

Diesel engines rely on the detergent qualities in the oil more than the oil quality...( within reason ).

 

And lastly the manufacturers specs only apply to shiny new engines........if you got a 100k+ on the clock anything resembling oil will be just fine.

[richyrich]

Tim-spam,(and others). Sorry, did not see your question at the time you asked about my engine. I was very busy dealing with my father who was dying at the time. Gone now. Not asking for sympathy. he was nearly 86 so had a long life.

This was the reason I had to go along with Fraud - too busy to deal with the car.

The symptoms was losing power intermittently, then coming up a slip road on to dual carriageway lost power, only managed 40. A noise like a bang then big clouds of smoke behind me. Stopped car, engine revs went right up and off the counter, stopped engine with key. Waited 5 mins and it actually started and i limped home, only the length of the street.

Engine was shaking like a good un and if you removed the oil filler cap or the dipstick it was blowing oil (that smelt of diesel as well) out at you.

I suspected piston rings, think crankshaft may have been damaged by problem but I'll never know.

Did oil & filter change every 5k hoping to make car last, used oil specified for pd engine from VW dealer.

Still, now I got a car with only 8k on the engine clock, but 90k on the car!

Just like to say I think this site is great. Saw loads of probs that I'd already dealt with but I'm armed and ready for some of the others from some of the threads I've seen.

Regards to all who put in what seems to be a great deal of effort and time.

 

Richard

[seatkid]

Remember that it is better to use a cheap oil and change it more often than use an expensive oil and change it less.

Disagree

[tim-spam]

So do I.

[west]

silly thing to say really,

The right oil depends entirely on the cicumstances and hence no two oils are better or worse (hence choice)

 

I do less than 5000 miles per year so i change the oil only yearly and that's only because over time the oil deteriorates irrespective of use.

 

I also use STD grade Duckhams semi synthetic to the VW spec, it is cheap enough and good enough to do the job.

 

If i was a taxi doing 50000 miles per year i'd use something better.

 

 

;)

[NikpV]

well halfords vw505.01 spec is

[elize]

have allways used mobil 1 in my cars since early 90s and have never had any engine probs. apart from one jaguar all cars have been old bangers. changed the oil for the first time on my 1999 tdi galaxy discovered fords had cross threaded the sump plug suprise suprise inexperienced uninterested kids again managed to force sump plug back on again and filled with mobil 1 have noticed an average increace of around 4 to 5 mpg on my 12 mile run to work this may be due to the oil being new just hope this 0 w 40 oil is ok for the car

 

elize

Edited July 15, 2007 by elize

[west]

have allways used mobil 1 in my cars since early 90s and have never had any engine probs. apart from one jaguar all cars have been old bangers. changed the oil for the first time on my 1999 tdi galaxy discovered fords had cross threaded the sump plug suprise suprise inexperienced uninterested kids again managed to force sump plug back on again and filled with mobil 1 have noticed an average increace of around 4 to 5 mpg on my 12 mile run to work this may be due to the oil being new just hope this 0 w 40 oil is ok for the car

 

elize

 

 

Oil is a very technical science, whilst i dont have the link, i have read some very very ggod faq on the web about it.

 

But, from my knowledge of tribology, you can use oil which is:

a) too good

:lol: not good enough

 

using super thin oils in engines can cause problems (0-40w full synth) as the oil is able to seep past seals/rings etc and also because the oil is to thin to be pumped properly (changing the Visc of fluid in a pump , pisses the pump off)

 

Using thick oils is equally bad.

 

Time, usage, millage etc can all have an effect either good or bad.

 

VW (for a TDI anyhows) spend lots of money and know much much more about these things than most.

why you would want to deviate from that and spend

[tim-spam]

using super thin oils in engines can cause problems (0-40w full synth) as the oil is able to seep past seals/rings etc and also because the oil is to thin to be pumped properly (changing the Visc of fluid in a pump , pisses the pump off)

A 0W40 oil is not 'super thin' at all - I think that this is a misunderstanding. 0W40 simply means that the oil has the same viscosity as a 'straight' 0 weight oil at 0degC and the same as a 'straight' 40 at 110degC, with a roughly linear relationship between temperature and weight equivalence.

 

This also means that at temperatures above 110degC, a 0W40 will have a higher viscosity than a 15W40.

[seatkid]

I don't agree with a lot of what super piper says.

 

1. There is no such thing as oil that is too good.

 

2. For someone who claims a knowledge of tribology, he does not seem to understand the difference between 0W40 and a 10W40 and its implications to a car engine. For the engines this forum is interested in, 0W40 oil will actually cause less wear than 10W40 oil!

 

I will be using Quantum Synta ED for my next oil change. This is a 0W30 grade as opposed to the 5W40 Synta Gold I usually use. It has VW505.00 approval, my manual states 0W30 fully synthetic is fine, it should yield a small improvement in fuel economy and it suitable for extended drain intervals.

 

Using the right specification of oil is what counts above all.