OIL TYPE USED - TDI ONLY

[Guest marcusheawood]

...well, I actually originally read Mech Eng. at Trent Poly and then Physics/Astrophysics at Sussex Uni but I've kind of got the learning bug rather badly and I can't really stop.

 

Urban myths is one of my hobby horses together with 'Green' Science (if you can call it that!), we live in a world of Bullshit and I see it as my personal duty to correct incorrect preconceptions.

 

I change careers every few years and would be the first to admit that I get bored rather easily. I refuse to buy my council house on principle and intend to leave the tenancy to my children in my will.

 

I have been described by most of my friends as a Militant Atheist (you really don't want to doorstep me if you believe anything I don't!), and my current political thinking is a individual form of Liberal Minarcho-Capitalism. This makes voting very difficult, and since I firmly believe in exercising my rights I have to keep spoiling the bloody paper!

 

I don't buy ANYTHING on the strength of hearsay or salesmanship.

 

My wife tells I'm very difficult to live with, and I believe her. But she doesn't exactly make my life easy, and she thinks she's all sweetness and light!

 

My axiom is simple IF IN DOUBT, LEAVE IT OUT!

 

:D

[tim-spam]

I'm not expounding myths - just passing on a little bit of info. from our company's lubrication expert - we produce diesel engines amongst other things, and I have access to quite a few genuine expert opinions.

There is also a problem that when one sets out to 'correct incorrect misconceptions', one has to be sure that one is correct oneself, otherwise there is the very real danger of 'incorrecting' the correct.

[deadpool2e]

Sorry to put this here but..... Where exactly is the oil filter? I just bought one from halfords and it

[tim-spam]

The oil filter is at the front of the engine bay under the removeable cover. You will need a tool to remove the cap - Halford also sell this tool for about

[deadpool2e]

any idea what the tool is called or a discription?

[dave_m]

this is what you need..........

 

 

 

Its a 76mm Socket and can be found here.......

 

Toolsnstuff.co.uk

 

 

or if you want to get ripped off they sell them at halfrauds.

[Mr Poisson]

deadpool,

 

a simple strap spanner will remove the plastic cap covering the oil filter. it is fitted vertically by the way so you dont get oil dribbling down your arm!

you can even use an old leather belt to remove the cap!

the under sheild is held on with 4 bolts, easy to see, and two small nuts.

you really need to raise the front of the car abit to aid removal, ramps or even something under the wheels (thick planks) are ideal

hope this helps?

[galaxy_1.9TD_Zetec]

Does Mobil 1 meet 505.01? Last time I checked, it didn't say so on the bottle.

 

I use castrol from the local car shop

[jkspoff]

Just about to do an oil change and discovered this oil at my local car maintenance store, 505.01 spec PD specific oil,

[raymac]

Just about to do an oil change and discovered this oil at my local car maintenance store, 505.01 spec PD specific oil,

[lydanial]

was that for fully synthetic from fraud??

[NikpV]

umm

[raymac]

umm

[NikpV]

umm

[jkspoff]

Ford SD 505.01 says semi-synthetic on bottle.

 

http://www.commaoil.com/Product%20Pages/Oi...es/dieselpd.htm

 

Diesel PD 5w-40

Fully Synthetic - Ultimate Protection - Maximum Performance

 

Suitable for high performance diesel engines - including turbo charged.

Specially formulated to meet the needs of VW/AUDI/SEAT/SKODA/FORD GALAXY diesel cars fitted with the "Pumpe Duse" - PD or unit injector engines.

Ultimate protection in all conditions - extremes of heat and cold.

Fully synthetic to help keep engine clean and prolong engine life.

Helps reduce emissions.

 

Service Classification: ACEA B3 API CF

 

Meets requirements of: VW 505.01, FORD WSS M2C917-A, VW 505.00/VW 500.00, MB229.1

[NikpV]

this years bottle actually says 'synthetic technology' on it - previous years said 'semi-synthetic' there was a thread on this IIRC

[jkspoff]

Just an alternative to Ford, it may be cheaper in other places. Is it possible that the Ford SD oil is still semi-synthetic, as it states it has synthetic technology and doesn't specifically say fully synthetic ? Anyway it seems either will surfice.

 

http://www.commaoil.com/Product%20Pages/Oi...es/dieselpd.htm

[NikpV]

just had a read on the can and nowhere does it state fully synthetic

 

 

 

only problem with the comma oil is that it comes in 4.5l - I like to have some to top up - during the year

[jkspoff]

Yes, it would have been useful to have a spare 0.5 litres for topping up, at least I know I can add all the container without overfilling, if only Ford used these containers it would stop them overfilling !

I have some spare 505.01 somewhere for topping up, although it hasn't dropped hardly any in a year. I suspect they are made at the same oil refinery.

[Bigjeeze]

I will be changing my oil as soon as my Oil sucker arrives. I bought a container of Quantum PD oil, and put it on the shelf in the garage next to the old can of millers - What a surprise - apart from the actual labels the containers are identical right down to the markings and the slightly raised area where the stickers go - So who makes it? Is it Millers supplying Quantum or Quantum supplying Millers? :wacko:

[zeplin43]

Guys the issue about the oil for the Tdi motor with pump duse is not if it is synthetic or semi synthetic, it is an ADITIVE that has to be added to the oil. This aditive will then lubrificate the injectores and keep them in top shape for many kilometers. Tdi pd use 505.(01) oil other tdi use 505.(00).

[sanjsanj]

hey guys, just a small Q, what colour is the oil when you check the dipstick?

 

J reg diesel: colour put in: lightish dark brown

colour on dipstick (obviously after running it for a while): Black

 

R reg petrol: colour put in: lightish dark brown

colour on dipstick (obviously after running it for a while):a dark brown(only slightly darker than what was put in)

 

P reg petrol: colour put in: lightish dark brown

colour on dipstick (obviously after running it for a while) : a dark brown(only VERY slightly darker than what was put in)

 

T reg Diesel: colour put in: lightish dark brown

colour on dipstick (obviously after running it for a while): Almost Black

 

Now is it a characteristic for diesels to have a noticably darker oil colour or is it just my cars?

[Masked Marauder]

With some engines you don't get all the oil out when you drain it, the PD VAG TDi engine in the later Galaxy is a good example of this. When initially filling a dry engine you need 300cl more oil than for an oil and filter change. This means that nearly a third of a litre of dirty oil stays in the engine!

 

Also engine wear will be different allowing different levels of contamination into the oil. This is why some people like to change the oil more frequently with an older engine.

[tim-spam]

Diesel engines produce more soot than petrol engines, and diesel engine oils are designed to hold this in suspension - hence the black oil. In my experience, however, the newer pd engines produce far less soot than older technology diesels, and the oil blackens far more slowly.

[sanjsanj]

so what if i empty all the oil (obviously while it has been running for some time) and then turn the engine over- just a bit i.e hold it in the start position for just say, around 1 second....that way the engine will move about a bit and may be i might be able to get more oil out...any ideas?