johnb80 Posted December 9, 2004 Report Posted December 9, 2004 Right all of you with too many cylinders let me state I AM NOT HAVING A GO AT YOU OK ? From time to time I read Car Mechanics magazine, I picked up a copy today that has a tale of woe about a V6 Gal. Apparently a garage sold the Gal to someone and it drove perfectly OK AA inspections etc, clean bill of health. The new owner was driving when there was a bang and the engine stopped, they had done less than 100 miles since purchasing the vehicle. The cam chain had snapped! The article goes on to say that this is well known within the trade with the golfs and Gals and it usually happens around the 100,000 mile mark. Changing the chain is a nightmare because unlike normal chain driven cams the VW ones are driven from the back i.e. the chain is inbetween the gearbox and the engine so even to change the chain is an engine and gearbox out etc. They recommend that if you're buying a V6 and it has more than 80,000 on the clock you should offer Quote
seatkid Posted December 9, 2004 Report Posted December 9, 2004 Yes I've read a number of times about snapped chain on the VR6. :P Must be a pathetic design as a chain should be for life. :P Maybe we should consider buying Toyota's instead.... :P Quote
johnb80 Posted December 9, 2004 Author Report Posted December 9, 2004 Seatkid, you're a very naughty boy using language like that now go and stand in the corner, stay there until you're invited back out. To everyone else please accept apologies on behalf of seatkid for mentioning the 'T' word, the first three letters of the name are about right. Quote
Guest vr6galaxy Posted December 11, 2004 Report Posted December 11, 2004 Changing the chain is a nightmare because unlike normal chain driven cams the VW ones are driven from the back i.e. the chain is inbetween the gearbox and the engine so even to change the chain is an engine and gearbox out etc. Total engine and gearbox out! thats a bit over the top! only the gearbox needs to come out, and while it's out it's worth while replaceing the clutch as well! the most common cause of VR6 cam chain failure isnt the chain it's self but the tensioner and guide wearing! when this fails the chain can get slack and jump a cog! around the 100000 mile mark is about right to get this looked at, and as its a gear box out job you may as well replace the chain, tensioner, guide and clutch while your there, mind you I'm at the 175k mark and no sign of trouble! yet :( the VR6, either way for all it's faults, it's still a far better engine than than a rattly old oil burner B) no offence JB :D Quote
GSMGuy Posted December 11, 2004 Report Posted December 11, 2004 Off to look at my fuel computer now, it's been at least 10 minutes since I've seen it into 3 figures :( Hehe B) Mike Quote
seatkid Posted December 12, 2004 Report Posted December 12, 2004 rattly old oil burner :rolleyes: doesnt the VR6 sound the same when the tensioner's worn out? :rolleyes: Quote
johnb80 Posted December 12, 2004 Author Report Posted December 12, 2004 rattly old oil burner :rolleyes: doesnt the VR6 sound the same when the tensioner's worn out? :rolleyes: No it doesn't, there's a horrible bang followed the the jingling of cash going out of the owners pocket to Ford, they're not too worried about this sound cos theyre used to it when they make such frequent trips to the petrol station :rolleyes: I still don't see the logic why use 6 cylinders when 4 will do the job, why do less than 30 mpg when you can do 50+. Seriously VR6 very nice engine, lovely sound, the real advantage acceleration, but just how long do you spen accelerating on a journet? not that much. Constant speeds the oild burners are right in there with you and PROBABLY have better 50 to 70 times in top gear so on balance I personally don't think theyre that much better. They talk about the noise, inside a diesel theyre quiet and not intrusive, certainly when you're moving along you don't hear the engine at all. Merry Christmas to you one and all (even the VR6 pilots). Regards - JohnB Quote
MrT Posted December 12, 2004 Report Posted December 12, 2004 I still don't see the logic why use 6 cylinders when 4 will do the job, why do less than 30 mpg when you can do 50+. Seriously VR6 very nice engine, lovely sound, the real advantage acceleration, but just how long do you spen accelerating on a journet? not that much. Constant speeds the oild burners are right in there with you and PROBABLY have better 50 to 70 times in top gear so on balance I personally don't think theyre that much better. They talk about the noise, inside a diesel theyre quiet and not intrusive, certainly when you're moving along you don't hear the engine at all. Merry Christmas to you one and all (even the VR6 pilots). Regards - JohnB If you talk about time accelerating on a journey, it sounds like you don't often drive in London (junction or lights every few hundred yards) or on the M25 (stop start traffic), never a constant speed there. Also overtaking on single carriageways, the more power the better there for a quick overtake As for 50-70, I bet when I floor my V6 at 50 it is going 70 long before a diesel would be, past the car in front and back in. It wouldn't happen in top gear, it would kick down to third, nicely up to 6000 plus rpm...... The economy does not worry me as I am a low mileage driver and I can see the advantage of a diesel if you do a lot of miles. Now if Ford brought out a 50mpg 200+bhp diesel, that would be interesting. Quote
johnb80 Posted December 12, 2004 Author Report Posted December 12, 2004 If you talk about time accelerating on a journey, it sounds like you don't often drive in London (junction or lights every few hundred yards) or on the M25 (stop start traffic), never a constant speed there. Also overtaking on single carriageways, the more power the better there for a quick overtake As for 50-70, I bet when I floor my V6 at 50 it is going 70 long before a diesel would be, past the car in front and back in. It wouldn't happen in top gear, it would kick down to third, nicely up to 6000 plus rpm...... Drive in London, why on earth would anyone want to do that? Not me matey green fields and open roads of Lincolnshire is my home ground and I wouldn't want it any other way. Fancy having to change down to get a decent 50 to 70 time I thought these V6's were supposed to be good :rolleyes: no match for the torque of a good old tractor engine :rolleyes: Regards - JB Quote
MrT Posted December 12, 2004 Report Posted December 12, 2004 Fancy having to change down to get a decent 50 to 70 time I thought these V6's were supposed to be good :lol: no match for the torque of a good old tractor engine :lol: Doesn't the kick down work on the diseasel when you floor it at 50 or is that too close to the top speed? :rolleyes: Quote
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