Guest V6KID Posted November 4, 2004 Report Posted November 4, 2004 It's happens to me ! Rogue garage swopped spare and O/S rear last weekendand have now had to get the local Fraud garage to remove the alloy in the spare position using brut force. Winch appears to be broken as will not lower more than about 6 inches. Fraud says only solution is to replace it at a massive cost of Quote
iainkirk Posted November 4, 2004 Report Posted November 4, 2004 Tell the rogue garage they have broken it would be my first call. Is the Gal still under 3 years old? If so, the winch will be replaced under warranty, as mine was a few weeks ago. Having looked at mine before it was replaced, it appears that you can remove the winch from the car by undoing 2 allen key bolts under the car and removing the winch assembly. You can probably then unwind it off the car and then re-wind, but I can't say for sure. The cable is probably chewed up inside. Quote
Guest V6KID Posted November 4, 2004 Report Posted November 4, 2004 The rogue garage was whilst I was on holiday 200 miles away !! Unfortunately thecar is 3years 4 months old but I do have an extended warranty but this will be a difficult one to argue especially as the Ford Warranty company has gone bust and then seem very difficult to get approval from (speaking from past experience !)Think I might try taking it apart and having a go at re-winding it - it's cheaper than Quote
djacks42 Posted November 4, 2004 Report Posted November 4, 2004 Unbolt it and have a good look to see if it is still serviceable - may just be that the spindle has seized up. The mk2 got a zinc coated winch, but is still succpetable to corrosion. Get it off to inspect / rewind / grease... Or If it's knackered then replace it - but not at the cost you stated... Eng. PN: 95VW-19E513-AF Excl. VAT: 89.77 Incl. VAT: 105.48 (I believe that they are all serviced by 4M51-19E513-AA now actually). Quote
Andrew T Posted November 8, 2004 Report Posted November 8, 2004 Guess what I was doing on Saturday night ? Grappling with a jammed spare wheel winch in the pouring rain. It's only a few weeks since I used it last time, when it came right out to allow the wheel to stand against the bumper without a problem. The garage put the tyre back again, but apparently without problem. Trying to get it out this time it dropped a few inches, but then as I continued to wind down it went back up again! Eventually, by sitting on the road I managed to push the wheel up with my knees and undo the fastening. I've removed the winch (took 2 minutes) but I can't see how to get into it. Can anybody tell me how to break it open ? Quote
Ivor_E_Tower Posted November 8, 2004 Report Posted November 8, 2004 Cold chisel; large hammer? :D Quote
Guest fredt Posted November 8, 2004 Report Posted November 8, 2004 Cant see how you guys are manageing to b~~ger up the whinch! mines fine :D mind you its not been on the car for the last few years and lives in a box in the garage :lol: it does how ever still work as I tried it at the week end :D Quote
Ivor_E_Tower Posted November 8, 2004 Report Posted November 8, 2004 lives in a box in the garage :lol: it does how ever still work as I tried it at the week end :D Why did you try it out at the week-end? Some sort of sadistic punishment? To make others envious? :D Quote
Guest fredt Posted November 8, 2004 Report Posted November 8, 2004 YEP :lol: that and I was tidying up the garage and throwing out everything that didnt work and as it still did :D back in the box it went along with an unused VR6 gearbox/engine mount that I have knocking around Quote
Masked Marauder Posted November 8, 2004 Report Posted November 8, 2004 I think the cable must get kinked and if you wind it up with a loose cable it jams. When I had to get my spare changed, I wound it down. The tyre fitter was about to wind it back up after he changed the tyre, but I stopped him and did it my self. He had pushed the wheel under the car and the cable was kinking everywhere. I pulled it out and kept the cable tight and it was fine. Quote
Bigjeeze Posted November 11, 2004 Report Posted November 11, 2004 I had this on my first Galaxy - and after being quoted Quote
Andrew T Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 Many thanks Bigjeeze, that's what I needed to know. Oily mitts and lots of cursing for me this weekend. Quote
Masked Marauder Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 Many thanks Bigjeeze, that's what I needed to know. Oily mitts and lots of cursing for me this weekend. Ah yes, but you can get lots of cursing for Quote
Andrew T Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 Ah yes, but you can get lots of cursing for Quote
Guest theredshadow Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 When the spare is winched up and locked in place the winch can be overtightened causing the cable to interlock with previous windings on the drum. This causes the effect of a six inch drop and continue winding then causes the wheel to move upwards again. Try winching down a little and then at the lowest point of travel put extra weight onto the wheel to assist in pulling the cable from the drum and overcoming its tendency to stay fast in the previously wound cable. Time and effort will usually resolve the problem, once the wheel is finally off and your refitting it don't put the wheel directly under the winch leaving loose rope, refit the wheel ensuring the cable is under tension all the time. Top tips from the Chinese Recovery Mechanics ... Win Chin :lol: and Win Chout B) Hope this helps as prevention is better than cure.. B) Quote
Guest V6KID Posted December 9, 2004 Report Posted December 9, 2004 Thanks for that - it is exactly what I did - removed whole winch from vehicle (2 bolts) and then put it into a vice and raised/lowered it under strain and lubed it until it became free enough to put back onto the vehicle. Now it's fingers crossed until I have a puncture.... Quote
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