Guest Spark Posted August 31, 2004 Report Posted August 31, 2004 After getting quotes for a LPG conversion and weighting up the savings in fuel costs over the next 3 years I have come to the conclusion that I wouldn Quote
johnb80 Posted August 31, 2004 Report Posted August 31, 2004 I personally think you're making the right decision, I've had a full range of vehicles from a 4.2 litre V8 engined Range Rover (converted to LPG) down to an MCC Smart Cabrio. I currently have a 115TDi Ghia Auto and it's superb. You will be very suprised at the amount of go the diesel has, it may be down on BHP but this engine develops more torque than the ST220 mondeo !! The autobox is very, very smooth and always drops into top a.s.a.p. when driven gently. MPG's are always in the high 40's low 50's even when doing short trips. Go for it with confidence you will not regret it. Regards - JohnP.S. The MAF is a device that measures the mass or weight of the air going into the engine. Quote
Tigger Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 Welcome to the dark world of diesel. I too think you will be suprised how good they are. Any down side is more than out weighed by the fewer trips to the pump! I hope you can find what you want for that money you might have to pay a little more for what you want? Quote
Taliska Posted September 1, 2004 Report Posted September 1, 2004 I've done nearly 180,000 miles over the last 10 years with diesel - the first 160,000 with a 1.9 TDI 90bhp Audi and the last 20,000 with a 1.9 TDI 115bhp Galaxy. I think the performance of the diesels are great and I don't think I would ever go back to petrol - I can't see the point in pouring more pound coins into the tank than you have to. In the Gal, I get 42mpg average (18 miles to work on a motorway) and 34mpg on a 1400 mile drive back from Spain - so that's good enough for me! For a car the size of a Galaxy, diesel is the only sensible option unless you have a company paying your fuel! One question remains... which is more environmentally friendly - petrol or diesel? I guess neither is really! Welcome to the world of the oil burners (another myth by the way!) Taliska Quote
Ivor_E_Tower Posted September 2, 2004 Report Posted September 2, 2004 Good luck if you're looking for a facelifted diesel Ghia for under Quote
Guest fredt Posted September 2, 2004 Report Posted September 2, 2004 One question remains... which is more environmentally friendly - petrol or diesel? I guess neither is really! Welcome to the world of the oil burners (another myth by the way!) Taliska Today on the way down to Bournemouth I played tag with 130 TDI Galaxy :( the amount of crap he belched out his exhaust when he gave it some welly would suggest that the environmentally friendly one isnt the diesel! me I was sticking far less crap out the back if any :( oh the joys of running a nice clean burning fuel and its cheaper than diesel :( Quote
Taliska Posted September 2, 2004 Report Posted September 2, 2004 oh the joys of running a nice clean burning fuel and its cheaper than diesel. But who can't go through the Channel Tunnel??? :( Taliska Quote
Guest fredt Posted September 2, 2004 Report Posted September 2, 2004 oh the joys of running a nice clean burning fuel and its cheaper than diesel. But who can't go through the Channel Tunnel??? :( Taliska And your point is? :( Quote
Taliska Posted September 2, 2004 Report Posted September 2, 2004 Hi fredt, Am I jumping to too many conclusions here, but if you say you're cleaner and cheaper, then you must be driving LPG... :( LPG vehicles, as I understand, are cleaner than both petrol or diesel ones which are both pretty vile at the end of the day. :( I guess it's the particulates that are the most noticeably bad thing about diesels. Twas my understanding that diesels have lower CO2 emissions than petrols, but quite frankly neither petrol nor diesel can really be environmentally friendly. And the point was... LPG vehicles are not allowed through the Channel Tunnel... which was only going to be relevant if you were running on gas. :( Taliska Quote
Guest fredt Posted September 2, 2004 Report Posted September 2, 2004 YEP I run on lpg :( cleaner and cheaper than those orrible oil burning TDI's :( I get the best of both worlds, the low cost of fuel and the pleasent purr of the VR6 on song as it powers past those smoke producing TDI's chugging along trying to squeeze an extra 100yds out the last gallon of fuel oil :( Quote
johnb80 Posted September 3, 2004 Report Posted September 3, 2004 And you still didn't admit to not being allowed through the chunnel, I wonder why that is.... maybe it's a safety issue !!!! Wait for the first time it backfires, you'll soon change your mind, and the though of a car fire with that bomb underneath or even worse inside with you.... been there, done that, no thanks. Go for diesel it's the only economic way to go long term. Regards - JB Quote
Taliska Posted September 4, 2004 Report Posted September 4, 2004 YEP I run on lpg :D cleaner and cheaper than those orrible oil burning TDI's :( I get the best of both worlds, the low cost of fuel and the pleasent purr of the VR6 on song as it powers past those smoke producing TDI's chugging along trying to squeeze an extra 100yds out the last gallon of fuel oil :lol: If LPG is so much better, why are there not more LPG vehicles on the road? Why do manufacturers not offer them as standard? { Just curious :( } Quote
johnb80 Posted September 4, 2004 Report Posted September 4, 2004 YEP I run on lpg :D cleaner and cheaper than those orrible oil burning TDI's :D I get the best of both worlds, the low cost of fuel and the pleasent purr of the VR6 on song as it powers past those smoke producing TDI's chugging along trying to squeeze an extra 100yds out the last gallon of fuel oil :( If LPG is so much better, why are there not more LPG vehicles on the road? Why do manufacturers not offer them as standard? { Just curious :( } Most car makers now do offer a dual fuel version of their mainstream cars. I still don't feel it's worth the extra money and hassle though. It was interesting when the fuel protests were on, I could happily fill my Range Rover and drive around blissfully when everyone else was queued up at the pumps and paid a fortune :lol: I do however still feel that LPG is more dangerous (hence the chunnel situation) and is less convenient. Cars adapted usually lose their spare wheel or some bootspace. Regards - JB Quote
Taliska Posted September 4, 2004 Report Posted September 4, 2004 Just a couple of basic questions... Have you ever had any difficulty finding LPG at fuel stations? What's its availability like on mainland Europe? Taliska Quote
Another?Maybe! Posted September 4, 2004 Report Posted September 4, 2004 In reply to 'Sparks' original question on this post..... I think if you want dual rear air-con you will have to go for the latest, 2004 MY facelift. I have just swapped my old 2.3 for a 53 2003 (2004 MY) with cruise as standard and aircon vents in the headlining for each individual 2nd and 3rd row seat for Quote
iainkirk Posted September 5, 2004 Report Posted September 5, 2004 Another?Maybe: Steel spare = imported vehicle - I think UK supplied Galaxies have 5 alloys, whereas imports have a steel spare. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Dunlop 2020 = original tyre, Michelins = replacement tyre. What was the mileage when you bought it? Front tyres last 15-20,000 miles IMHO. Seems like a good price though! Quote
johnb80 Posted September 5, 2004 Report Posted September 5, 2004 Just a couple of basic questions... Have you ever had any difficulty finding LPG at fuel stations? What's its availability like on mainland Europe? Taliska I never had a problem with my Rangie and that was 2 years ago. Most Motorway services have LPG as well as many of the larger stations, the uptake seems to be declining now though. It was good on the Range Rover, 4.2 V8 and heavy car = huge thirst, generally about 14 mpg, the gas made it comparable to a 28mpg car which was bearable.The things that put me off are that you have to modify the car and it does reduce it's value for sure when you come to sell, LPG produces an awful smell from the exhaust, the bomb underneath was always a concern, if the ignition circuit falters in any way it's very likelt that you will get a backfire and it's like a canon going off, my Rangie did it a couple of times in all the time I had it and it was scary. Regards - JB Quote
Another?Maybe! Posted September 5, 2004 Report Posted September 5, 2004 Ian..... car is Ford Direct with 7500 on the clock. still on the orig 4 Michelins. Ford website & latest Galaxy brochure lists steel spare on all models, even the optional wheels. As I said, bit cheapskate unless Ford think risk of corrosion of spare if alloy and not cleaned regularly. Had alloy spare on my previous and that was ok when i used it to replace one of the worn fronts. Strange? Think the stalling is down to my driving technique. I've always assumed you only use first gear when stopped, second will do whenever car is rolling. Think with this engine setup I need to get some revs on before letting the clutch up to prevent the stall. As I said, very unusual for a diesel, must have a very light flywheel. Quote
Guest Spark Posted September 5, 2004 Report Posted September 5, 2004 IVE FOUND ONE :D To get back to my original post, I have found a 2001 Satin Silver TDi 115 with dual climate and factory fitted sat nav, its high mileage at 81,000 but has a good service history (a major service every 8,000 miles or so) and my present 2.3 has covered 78,000 anyway I should hope the diesel unit is good for a few miles yet. Its been a rep mobile so its all motorway miles and the interior is like new the seats have spent most of there life folded, just the odd spot on the paint work but overall it in very good condition. I Quote
Guest Paulus1978 Posted November 8, 2004 Report Posted November 8, 2004 Well done on finding that :D i had to go up to Quote
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