Mk2 Remote Locking Fobs

[BrianH]

Anyone know of a cause for the fob failing to sync - I can get the led on the door to behave as it should do so that suggests the door switches are working correctly, pressing either button on the remote causes the led on remote to light up, but try as i might it will not sync to the car.

 

I've now tried 3 different remotes (the one that came with the car, and 2 off ebay) and not one wants to work! So suspect the car is the issue somehow, but not sure even where the remote locking unit actually is?

 

Is it possible to use vcds to wipe the programmed fobs and start again? and if so anyone know how?

[BrianH]

Just a thought in relation to this - are the VW/Seat fobs the same as the Ford ones?

[sparky Paul]

I guess you are using the procedure in the FAQ?

 

The remote locking & PATS is integrated into the fusebox / body control module on mk.2 and late mk.1 cars. VW VCDS has no access to these systems, you have to use Ford IDS diagnostic system.

 

I think the early mk.2 VW/Seat ones are the same, though IIRC there are a couple of different systems fitted which are not compatible with each other - check the manufacturer and frequency on the key label. VW/Seat continued to make the mk.2 up to 2010, but post 2006 VW/Seat models had the Ford PATS removed and replaced with VW bits.

 

My mk.1 has the later electrics, the remote key never worked on mine, the dealer couldn't get it to work either - turned out that remote locking was an optional extra on the Zetec model. Whether it had had a replacement key at some time, mistakenly a remote one, I don't know.

Edited November 7, 2017 by sparky Paul

[BrianH]

I guess you are using the procedure in the FAQ?

 

The remote locking & PATS is integrated into the fusebox / body control module on mk.2 and late mk.1 cars. VW VCDS has no access to these systems, you have to use Ford IDS diagnostic system.

 

I think the early mk.2 VW/Seat ones are the same, though IIRC there are a couple of different systems fitted which are not compatible with each other - check the manufacturer and frequency on the key label. VW/Seat continued to make the mk.2 up to 2010, but post 2006 VW/Seat models had the Ford PATS removed and replaced with VW bits.

 

My mk.1 has the later electrics, the remote key never worked on mine, the dealer couldn't get it to work either - turned out that remote locking was an optional extra on the Zetec model. Whether it had had a replacement key at some time, mistakenly a remote one, I don't know.

Is Focom the same thing as IDS? I've got that (was badged as being Ford Mini-IDS i think when i brought it).

 

Yes procedure in the faq is what i'm  using - I get the led on the door behaving as it should until you start pressing buttons - at which point it does nothing!

 

I will have a closer look at the key labels - Thing is first look shows different frequencies on the Seat one I brought, the VW one appears to be the same (though i've only 1 key for it, and that one doesn't work either on the remotes, i've a second one thats a plain key, but hasn't been programmed to the immobilizer which came with it, No guarantee someone hasn't been swapping bits about previously).

[gregers]

i would be cautious,if you go down this route make sure you know a way of backing your key codes up.

i had a senior diagnostic technician try and reprogram a new key etc and he had EVERYTHING but he did say once the button was pressed

then that was it,if it failed to load in then it rendered the car U.S and it was a visit to the dealers to be done.

as they have a direct route to the ford internet system.

[BrianH]

i would be cautious,if you go down this route make sure you know a way of backing your key codes up.

i had a senior diagnostic technician try and reprogram a new key etc and he had EVERYTHING but he did say once the button was pressed

then that was it,if it failed to load in then it rendered the car U.S and it was a visit to the dealers to be done.

as they have a direct route to the ford internet system.

Thats whats putting me off doing it, though knowing i only have 1 working key nags at me at the same time!

 

Thinking about it though i do have a suitable one to try it out on, as I've got the dead mk1 to try it out with first.

Edited November 9, 2017 by BrianH

[sparky Paul]

Is Focom the same thing as IDS?

 

Never heard of Focom, but it sounds a bit rude!

 

Gave it a quick gurgle, looks like third party software for an IDS clone interface - hopefully it should do all the same stuff.

[BrianH]

 

Is Focom the same thing as IDS?

 

Never heard of Focom, but it sounds a bit rude!

 

Gave it a quick gurgle, looks like third party software for an IDS clone interface - hopefully it should do all the same stuff.

 

I think its now called Fcom, though appears the one i've got is a knock off one anyway, so not sure i'd really trust it. Though it could be given a go on the old one i suppose!

[sparky Paul]

I've had these clone interfaces for other stuff, and they usually work 100%.

 

If I had seen one cheap for the Galaxy, I would have bought one myself.

[BrianH]

I've had these clone interfaces for other stuff, and they usually work 100%.

 

If I had seen one cheap for the Galaxy, I would have bought one myself.

I can't find the same interface available anymore - The official fcom one is $300. Not sure if it needs access to incode/outcode functions till I try it, looks like you have to pay for access if thats the case.

[sparky Paul]

There's usually a fix around any server access required, or they don't bother cloning the interface.

 

You can find the clone FoCOM interface for less than 20 quid.