Tuning Module For Galaxy Deisel 130ps

[Davetheref]

Saw this on Ebay. Does anyone know if it actually does what it says on the tin or am I likely to do a lot of damage using it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

THIS AUCTION IS FOR A pD TUNING MODULE!

 

IT WILL ONLY WORK ON PD ENGINES!

 

REDi Tuning Module

 

Do you own a VW, AUDI, SEAT, SKODA or FORD GALAXY TDi?

You could get upto 25% more power and 30% more torque by simply plugging in a REDi pD tuning module.

After installation you can enjoy faster acceleration, a higher top speed and a huge increase in Torque.

The result is a much more enjoyable drive with an almost effortless feel when accelerating.

The need to rev the engine is much less due to the massive increase in Torque lower down in the rev range.

This increase in Torque allows a much more relaxed driving style to be adopted and in the vast majority of cases an improvement in MPG is actually achieved! (this is usually only seen after the novelty factor has worn off ie. normal everyday driving

[Denis]

Well... a mate of mine has fitted something like this to his Golf TDI, it fits in the wiring loom and can be removed easily when it goes in to be serviced. He is delighted with it, he claims increased power and increased MPG... it would be interesting to see some independent figures to back up the claims of the manufacturers.

[Marky]

Have a look in the New Members Introduction section, link below

 

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/Forum/index.php?showtopic=2748

 

this new member has just fitted one to his 90 bhp and seems well chuffed !!!

 

 

Mark

[Davetheref]

The only other question I have is, if these are so good, why don't the manufacturers fit them in the first place ???????

[Guest JohnP]

Working on the basis that you don't get something for nothing - what is the catch? I'm suspicious of the statement that this runs your engine within the manufacturer's limits - probably the maximum rather than the normal?

However, I would be willing to give it a try. Can anybody comment on what's so different about the 87bhp version (compared to the 90?)

John

[Guest Boggler]

I've got a six year old 90bhp, I fitted a box from mrhoot.com about a year ago. I wasn't looking for a top end increase, just a bit more overall performance. The increase in Torque is amazing, if you think it's good as standard try it with one of the boxes.

[Guest SA Intruder]

See also:

 

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/Forum/index.p...ning%20box&st=0

[Davetheref]

Now I've gone and done it!!!!

I have bought one from Ebay and will fit in the next couple of days. I'll post on here how I get on and whether I think its worth it. Its so easy to fit and that means eay to take off as well if needed (must remember to remove when service is due).

[Ivor_E_Tower]

Ah, this could get interesting.... :D

[Davetheref]

Right then guys, next silly question coming up.

I have received the tuning module and the instructions say it has to be connected to the fuel temperature sensor and also shows a picture of where this is. I CANT find it. The picture shows it on the right of the engine as you look at it and the connector itself has two pins\plug. Any help would be great.

Thanks

[Ivor_E_Tower]

... it has to be connected to the fuel temperature sensor and also shows a picture of where this is. I CANT find it.

Anyone beginning to have doubts.........

Fuel temperature sensor, whatever next? Could try making one out of wood I suppose :lol:

[Davetheref]

Sorry Ivor, excuse my ignorance, but I am not sure what you mean. I'm just quoting from the fitting instructions.

[Davetheref]

A bit of further info. Here is a copy of the fitting instructions sent to me and i have attatched it as a word doc. Please can someone put me straight (or tell me I've been done). Thanks

 

PD Engine fittina instructions -transverse aDDlications. TRANSVERSE ENGINE

The top cover will vary from manufacturer -but the unit below is the same. The top cover may need unscrewing via 6mm nuts under clip on covers, or may just pull off, golf/bora. Under the plastic cover, there I s some insulating foam -this can be lifted away, to reveal the engine. A finger in the photo indicates the wiring connection to the fuel temperature sensor -this is the connector that you need to unplug.

 

PICTURE ATTATCHED

 

There.s a tricky little catch that needs to be released -have a look at how it works on the connectors on your tuning box. Remove the loom connector from the temp. sensor Plug the male end of the tuning box into the removed connector- ensuring that it 'clicks' fully home and locks -it shouldn't pull apart without releasing the retaining clip again -test it. Connect the female end of the tuning

box back to the temp. sensor as above, ensuring that it is fully locked into place. The connectors can be tricky to close -the weather seals make them a bit stiff.

NB -if the connectors do not connect fully -there will be no noticeable

performance gain.

Fully connected tuning box -refit the insulation and top cover -road test. If there is no noticeable improvement in performance then the connectors are not fully plugged together -recheck connections.

No adjustments, setting up or running in required. Removal is a reverse of the installation procedure.

engine4.pdf

[Guest Boggler]

Dave,

 

Mine plugs into the feed for the injectors, and adjusts the length of time they're open. That connector is at the front of the engine, just slightly to the left and behind the fan (90bhp, 1997). I think the corrsponding connector for yours may be just forward of this, as long as its the same as mine. To the left of the electric fan there's a pipe with an electrical connector on it, perhaps it's this?

[Davetheref]

Hi Boggler

Must admit that what you say makes more sense than the so called install instructions. Thanks for that and I'll have another go tonight.

P.S. The only plug which I found last night which was the right size seemed to be on the side of the alternator.

Thanks again

[Davetheref]

Had another go at this. Still no joy even with the picture that the supplier sent me (attached 2 posts up). I do have the large pipe on the right of the engine as shown in the piccie, but do not have the wiring loom cable it shows on top of it

so it must be the same engine but the configuration is different.

Any help from anyone????

[Davetheref]

Finally got it fitted and what a difference. I didn't quite belive it woud do what its says but it does and the MPG seems to bhe better as well. Much more power and the engine seems smoother as well.

[Ivor_E_Tower]

So what connector did you attach it to?

 

(Don't tell SA I)

[Davetheref]

Ivor, soory to sound so stupid , but I'm not sure what I attached it to. I took a picture of my engine and sent it to the guy who sold it to me and he sent the piccie back with the connector ringed in a red circle. The picture is too big to attach to this message but I'll try to explain where the connector is.

Looking at the engine, it is on the right hand side under and to the right of the large rubber pipe.

 

Further to my last mail about extra power etc. I did my usual 17 mile run this morning to the train station and my MPG has improved by about 10. Couldn't believe it as the best I've ever had for that journey is about 55 MPG and this morning I finished on 66 MPG.

[Guest OXO2 PUB]

Any idea on power after fitting?

 

I'm waiting to take delivery of a DMS Dual system, basicly a black box that plugs into the OBDII port you click a button and it swaps the maps from standard to modified. You can do it as many times as you like and the dealer doesnt see it cause come service time you just swap it back to standard.

 

Unless he reads this and then I'm up the proverbial river :D

 

On the figures I've seen it should take the PD 130 to about 172 BHP and 380 NM, this is classed as safe and within the engine limits BUT for everyone buying these and the tunning box products you are still gonna have problems Turbos dont last forever so a product like this will shorten that life. However certain remaps etc take the engine beyond these 'safe' limits and people end up losing clutches, turbos etc after only 6 months just like on a 183bhp PD130 I know of :lol:.

 

Be carefull and research who you buy these things off first word of mouth is paramount

 

just my 2p's worth :)

[Guest fredt]

 

 

BUT for everyone buying these and the tunning box products you are still gonna have problems Turbos dont last forever so a product like this will shorten that life. However certain remaps etc take the engine beyond these 'safe' limits and people end up losing clutches, turbos etc

A guy I work with has one of Seat UK's 1.8T Alhambra's, its one of the full projektzwo body kitted ones! 18'' rims, full skirts, wide arches, twin lights.......... the list goes on, during the week I happened to be chatting to the guy who originally did the conversions for Seat UK, he was saying that they used to get the 1.8T'S up to around 185/190 bhp :) I will admit its quick! but it needs a new clutch already! and dont think its the first one! oh! and the tyres dont last that long either!

if things go well this week I should be popping round his place to get some bits for my Galaxy and may drop the question of bulk buys to him :lol: as hes the main importer for projektzwo :D anybody fancy a body kit?

[Guest OXO2 PUB]

yeah I know of a few Ibiza Cupras that have had to have Turbos and Clutch's replaced after they were mapped to well over 200bhp. They were all caused by the remap producing 25+psi of boost. The impellors couldnt take the pressure or heat and ended up bending and in one instance cracking and breaking up. I've also seen a Clutch plate melted on both sides! after only 10k miles.

 

At the end of the day you have to be careful and its always good to get a warranty from the chip/remap company to cover your Turbo etc thrown in with the price

 

Oh and on the bodykit front I'll have a rear spoiler please

[MrT]

Apart from the engine capacity, are the lower powered Galaxies built to lesser specs such as smaller clutches and weaker gearboxes? I assumed they would use a lot of common parts. As a tuned to 180hp Galaxy is still 24hp less than the 2.8i and that does not quickly burn out parts.

[Davetheref]

Must admit that when I bought mine, the ad did warn about older cars and to check their cambelts etc. before fitting the module. I've only got about 5K on the clock so my engine shouldn't have any problems (famous last words?).

But as I said on a previous post, I love this gadget, MPG is now fantastic and have more power and a much smoother running engine to boot.

 

P.S. I am not on commission to sell these :lol: :) :D

[Guest OXO2 PUB]

Apart from the engine capacity, are the lower powered Galaxies built to lesser specs such as smaller clutches and weaker gearboxes? I assumed they would use a lot of common parts. As a tuned to 180hp Galaxy is still 24hp less than the 2.8i and that does not quickly burn out parts.

For the PD TDI's (115, 130, 150 & 160) there pretty much similar internals, main differances are the size of the turbos, ECU map. for example the differances I know of to date between the 150 and 160 PD's are larger turbo,uprated Gear box, FMIC and a differant Map.

 

The differances between Ford 2.8 V6 lumps and VW 1.9 TDI lumps are too much to list so I'll just put its a completly differant engine :lol:

 

At the end of the day the 2.8 has been bench tested to run 204bhp day in day out so the parts are able to take the power just as a TDI 130 will take 130bhp day in day out. But if you change the ECU map and nothing else parts will be pushed beyond the limits of what the parts can take and they are gonna fail because of it.

 

If you just mapped the V6 with an extra 35% more power and torque the engine would have the same future problems of burning clutches out as a PD130 with 35% more power.

 

It is said that a PD 130 can take about 175bhp 'safely' ie it does not push parts beyond there limits but the life span of the parts is still decreased slightly because there being run at higher temps, pressures etc than what they were designed for for optimum life expectancy.

 

Hope that makes sense, just finished a 12 hour day and me head hurts :)