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Posted

Good afternoon, 

I recently bought my second Galaxy, the first was a petrol '98 which I only let go because it dramatically failed an MOT, I ruched out and bought the newest Galaxy I could afford and I suspect I've been had.

It's a '04 19.TDi Auto and it seems to have two very common problems.  Of course neither of them showed themselves until I was hours driving away from the person I bought it from and there is no chance at all of me getting my money back.

So I'm hoping someone might be able to talk me through attempting to resolve them.  I'm pretty handy, but dont have much experience with engines.

Problem 1)  Not selecting gears when cold.  WHen driving it first thing in the morning it sits in 2nd and won't shift.  After about 10 minutes and the engine warms this goes away.  I understand it is likely to be one of three solonoids, but I have no idea how big a job it would be to replace them.

 

Problem 2) It switches into limp home mode when accelerating uphill.  I guess I don't have to give any more details as this seems to be a very common issue.  I have read that the first ting to do is to check and/or replace the vacuum hoses, but I dont even know which they are.  I have however ordered a Haynes manual to see if that helps.

If you are able to offer me any advice, help, or encouragement I would massively appreciate it.  I spent every penny I had buying the damn thing and I can;t afford to throw money at a mechanic to help me fix it.  If I have no choice I can probably lay my hands on a couple of hundred, but it will be a stretch.

Thanks in advance.

Posted

Good afternoon, 

 

I recently bought my second Galaxy, the first was a petrol '98 which I only let go because it dramatically failed an MOT, I ruched out and bought the newest Galaxy I could afford and I suspect I've been had.

 

It's a '04 19.TDi Auto and it seems to have two very common problems.  Of course neither of them showed themselves until I was hours driving away from the person I bought it from and there is no chance at all of me getting my money back.

 

So I'm hoping someone might be able to talk me through attempting to resolve them.  I'm pretty handy, but dont have much experience with engines.

 

Problem 1)  Not selecting gears when cold.  WHen driving it first thing in the morning it sits in 2nd and won't shift.  After about 10 minutes and the engine warms this goes away.  I understand it is likely to be one of three solonoids, but I have no idea how big a job it would be to replace them.

 

Problem 2) It switches into limp home mode when accelerating uphill.  I guess I don't have to give any more details as this seems to be a very common issue.  I have read that the first ting to do is to check and/or replace the vacuum hoses, but I dont even know which they are.  I have however ordered a Haynes manual to see if that helps.

 

If you are able to offer me any advice, help, or encouragement I would massively appreciate it.  I spent every penny I had buying the damn thing and I can;t afford to throw money at a mechanic to help me fix it.  If I have no choice I can probably lay my hands on a couple of hundred, but it will be a stretch.

 

Thanks in advance.

Theres been other posts on the gearbox - First step is check the fluid before anything else. If its either low or in poor condition top it up or drain as much as you can and replace it is usually the best way to approach (instructions on here to do so under the faq section). Certainly won't cost anything beyond the time to check and the fluid itself.

 

If you want some sort of idea why its going into limp mode then get hold of a suitable cable for use with VCDS lite - You can usually pick them up on ebay for less than an Tenner, and that will give you the fault code thats causing the limp mode, search for the code on here and with any luck you will find someone whos already had that issue and what they did to fix it. Whilst its a common issue there can be many causes for it, alot of them simple but you need some idea where to start looking really. You'd just need a laptop to plug into the car (or a computer that you can get close enough to reach would also work!) and the free version of VCDS from Ross-Tech.

Posted

Thanks very much for your reply.

I have ordered a cable, and will download the software once it arrives.  

Can you recommend a good tutorial for checking/replacing the oil in the gearbox?

Thanks again, I very much appreciate your help.

Posted

Sorry! Forget that, found it in the FAQ.  

Yep thats the one I'd have pointed you towards!

 

When you get your cable use the drivers that come on the disc with the cable, and the current version of VCDS lite downloaded from Ross-tech (the cables tend to come with older versions on the disc).

Posted

This is driving me crazy.  I've bought a lead, installed the drivers from the disk as it tells me to, checked the driver settings, installed VCDS Lite, and it simply won't recognise there is anything on any of the ports.

I'll keep trying, but if there are any helpful tips you can give me they would be very much appreciated.

Posted

This is driving me crazy.  I've bought a lead, installed the drivers from the disk as it tells me to, checked the driver settings, installed VCDS Lite, and it simply won't recognise there is anything on any of the ports.

 

I'll keep trying, but if there are any helpful tips you can give me they would be very much appreciated.

Check the com port allocated in device manager on windows, set it to com4 or lower to start with (any one not already used by something else there should be fine).

 

You also need the ignition on (position 2) but doesn't need to have engine running.

 

Screenshots of the error your getting might help (printscreen key on keyboard then paste into paint and save)

Posted

 

This is driving me crazy.  I've bought a lead, installed the drivers from the disk as it tells me to, checked the driver settings, installed VCDS Lite, and it simply won't recognise there is anything on any of the ports.

 

I'll keep trying, but if there are any helpful tips you can give me they would be very much appreciated.

Check the com port allocated in device manager on windows, set it to com4 or lower to start with (any one not already used by something else there should be fine).

 

You also need the ignition on (position 2) but doesn't need to have engine running.

 

Screenshots of the error your getting might help (printscreen key on keyboard then paste into paint and save)

 

Another thought that occurs - What cable have you brought? If its an ebay listing can you find an item number for it or a link to it?

Posted

Hi Brian,

 

Thanks for your help with this, I really appreciate it.  After much trial and error I did get the cable to work, and this is what I got from it.
 

VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2
Tuesday, 13 June 2017, 19:51:35.
 
 
Chassis Type: FG - Ford Galaxy
Scan: 25,01,02,03,08,09,15,16,17,18,19,22,29,35,36,37,39,45,55,56,76
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine       Labels: 038-906-019-AJM.LBL
   Controller: 038 906 019 LR
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0001AG  1565
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00020
   VCID: 729759CB2DB7
3 Faults Found:
17965 -  Charge Pressure Control: Positive Deviation
            P1557 - 35-10 -   - - Intermittent
17564 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            P1156 - 35-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
17569 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            P1161 - 35-00 - Please Register/Activate
Readiness: N/A
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans       Labels: None
   Controller: 09B 927 750 L
   Component: AG5 Getriebe 09B   0248 
   VCID: 351DA2D71C59
4 Faults Found:
00300 -  Transmission Fluid Temp. Sensor (G93)
            27-10 -  Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01166 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            03-00 - Please Register/Activate
00526 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            28-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
00652 -  Gear Monitoring
            27-10 -  Implausible Signal - Intermittent
 

 

Any help interpreting it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again.

Posted

I've found the wiki at Ross-tech and this is what I can gather from these codes, please correct me if I've got the wrong end of the stick.

17964 and 17965 are to do with it being in limp mode and is likely to be to do with the vacuum hoses.

 

17569 is to do with a temperature sensor (I have no idea if this is erious or I can ignore it for now)

 

00300 is also possibly connected to limp mode, but to do with the Transmission fluid

 

01166 says the MAF might be faulty

 

00526 is to do with the brake lights and sometimes shows as faulty in Autos so I'm gonna ignore it for now.

 

00652 is to do with the Transmission fluid levels being possibly low.

So by my reckoning I need to check and top-up/replace the Transmission fluid, I need to replace the MAF, and I need to check the vacuum hoses.

I am taking it to my friendly local garage who certified my last Galaxy dead in the morning to check the trasmission fluid, I will talk to them about hoses and the MAF while I am there.

Have I missed anything obvious?  Or have I completely misinterpreted what is going on?

Thanks again!

Posted

On a related note is it worth trying to use a turbo cleaning spray?  I am wondering if the issues might simply be carbon build up...

 

No idea on the turbo spray, its not unknwon for what is referred to as an Italian tune up to help with turbo issues though.

 

Gearbox codes - the various faults might be faulty components, might be down to sensors not seeing fluid where it should do. Suggest as you say check/topup fluid as first step, then clear the codes with VCDS and see what comes back.

 

Codes wise - some of these may be old stuff from someone elses messing about (unplugging stuff for whatever reason with the engine running, or starting it with them disconnected). Best way to tackle them is take a note of them (as you have above). Clear them and then see what comes back (you may have to cycle the igntion to get them to be seen again). Anything that comes back up then needs looking at - the first one searching here comes back with this

 

17569 - Manifold Temp Sensor (G72): Open or Short to Plus P1161 - 35-00 - -

I think that would be part of the airflow sensor (contained in the pipe going from the air filter to manifold) - not an uncommon item to be unplugged in diagnosis to rule it out so may not actually be faulty.

17564 - Manifold Pressure Sensor (G71): Open/Short to Ground P1156 - 35-00 - -

Probabbly another part of the same sensor, or may be in the pipework - same applies as above (doubt its hose related as its an electrical fault detected)

Can't find anything for 17565 but may be the same thing as well

 

The limp mode may be being caused by the gearbox so i'd have a look there first at the fluid before you do anything beyond clearing the codes, might be an idea to have a look at the connectors to the maf sensor though as well.

 

Check your brake lights work, but if its coming up with an implausable signal message thats usually a sign that the switch is knackered - its supposed to be fairly easy to change, Does the glowplug light flash?

Posted

Right, time for an update.

I took the car to my local friendly garage who plugged it into their machine, got the same error codes as me (reassuring) and attempted to clear them.  However it wouldn't let them.

We got it on the ramp, and checked the transmission fluid.  They were very dubious about me telling them that there was a level check on the bottom of the sump, but we found it and as we opened it some fluid came out.  So I am assuming the level is good.  However it was black, and smelled burnt, so I guess needs replacing.  They are dubious about doing it as they know enough to know it needs to be done accurately, but don't have the right software to do the required checks.  I on the other hand am blase enough to do the job, but can't get the car high enough to access the drain point and the level check.  I think I've just about persuaded them to do a basic "put in as much as comes out" change which I figure is as good as I'm going to get without paying Ford hundreds of pounds an hour just to look at it.  However this leads on to my next point.  We are looking at somewhere in the region of 5 litres @ £31 per litre, and I'm not sure I want to spend that sort of money if there is another option.

Is there a different source of transmission fluid that will do the job that doesn't cost a ridiculous amount?

Anyway, back to the story.  I had a quick look at the hoses I could see clearly while it was in the air and couldn't see a split, but we did notice that the clip had broken on a sensor and it had come loose.  We put this back on and were then able to clear all the error codes.

So I'm not actually much further forward, but my plan is to see what error codes come up now, as any it shows now will definitely be new.

I'm currently wondering about buying a coupe of axle supports to raise the car, but if I do that will the angle be an issue when checking the fluid?

Posted

And this evening the faults it is showing are:
 

VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2
Wednesday, 14 June 2017, 19:18:25.
 
 
Chassis Type: FG - Ford Galaxy
Scan: 25,01,02,03,08,09,15,16,17,18,19,22,29,35,36,37,39,45,55,56,76
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine       Labels: 038-906-019-AJM.LBL
   Controller: 038 906 019 LR
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0001AG  1565
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00020
   VCID: 729759CB2DB7
3 Faults Found:
17564 -  Manifold Pressure Sensor (G71): Open/Short to Ground
            P1156 - 35-10 -   - - Intermittent
17569 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            P1161 - 35-00 - Please Register/Activate
17965 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            P1557 - 35-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
Readiness: N/A
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans       Labels: None
   Controller: 09B 927 750 L
   Component: AG5 Getriebe 09B   0248 
   VCID: 351DA2D71C59
No fault code found.


From this I am inferring that the transmission issues haven't happened since clearing the codes (they haven't), but that the dodgy connection on the sensor we found today is still an issue.

17965 seems to be suggesting that pressure is too high, not too low as I previously thought, and that a split hose is not likely to be the problem.

Any suggestions?
Posted

 

And this evening the faults it is showing are:

 

VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2
Wednesday, 14 June 2017, 19:18:25.
 
 
Chassis Type: FG - Ford Galaxy
Scan: 25,01,02,03,08,09,15,16,17,18,19,22,29,35,36,37,39,45,55,56,76
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine       Labels: 038-906-019-AJM.LBL
   Controller: 038 906 019 LR
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0001AG  1565
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00020
   VCID: 729759CB2DB7
3 Faults Found:
17564 -  Manifold Pressure Sensor (G71): Open/Short to Ground
            P1156 - 35-10 -   - - Intermittent
17569 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            P1161 - 35-00 - Please Register/Activate
17965 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            P1557 - 35-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
Readiness: N/A
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans       Labels: None
   Controller: 09B 927 750 L
   Component: AG5 Getriebe 09B   0248 
   VCID: 351DA2D71C59
No fault code found.

 

From this I am inferring that the transmission issues haven't happened since clearing the codes (they haven't), but that the dodgy connection on the sensor we found today is still an issue.

 

17965 seems to be suggesting that pressure is too high, not too low as I previously thought, and that a split hose is not likely to be the problem.

 

Any suggestions?

 

I'd have thought that this one is the most important

17564 -  Manifold Pressure Sensor (G71): Open/Short to Ground

 

That to me sounds like a bad electrical connection of some sort - either a damaged wire shorting out on something or just not connected, or a completely duff sensor thats gone short circuit. Where was the one you plugged back in.

 

Auto box fluid wise - I'd give it a go yourself, if its black and tar like its past its best.

 

You have the software for checking the fluid temp - some details on the other site here with screenshots

http://www.forum.fordmpv.com/smf2/ford-galaxy-reference-library/ford-galaxy-automatic-transmission-fluid-replacement-level-check-(ag5-09b)/#sthash.uosOrh2L.dpbs

 

On the fluid question you need to find something suitable - Eurocarparts lists a gulf product > http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Ford_Galaxy_1.9_2004/p/car-parts/transmission-parts/car-transmission/transmission-oils/?522772221&1&48e0fe387d5cff00d2e21ea2f0a6b49be572d929&000769 which suggests its suitable, but i'd advise checking with the manufacturer before you decide (the spec of the original fluid is on here if you search for it, confirmation of if that fluid or something else meets the same spec is what your after, or which one of their products is suitable). Alternatively ask the supplier to recommend.

 

Generally buying a larger quantity will work out cheaper (4 or 5 litres rather than a single litre). 5 litres should do a single drain and refill. You may need to do it twice to get as much out as you can, but even swapping half of it out should help somewhat

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