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Hi all, I have a '04 diesel zetech Galaxy. About 3 weeks ago it started to intermittently fail to lock or unlock from the remote key, this last weekend I parked it up for 2 days yesterday when I went to drive it the indicators failed to work. Also I had to unlock the drivers door to get in allother doors remained locked. Other things not working include interior lights and hazard flashers. After a bit of investigation I seem to have lost a power supply to pin 8 on connector P3 on the electronic unit. Now for the Bit where I need help....where does this wire (plain White) get its power from? and the most likely place for it to have failed. I only have the Haines manual and as far as I can see this wire is not in the diagams at all.

Thanks for any help.

Brian

Posted

This sounds like the usual culprit, a broken wire in the drivers door wiring loom.

The door loom where it goes from the door to the vehicle body.

Have fun Bob Hill

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The power will be from the fuse box by drivers right knee.  Sounds like you've blown one of the fuses.  Fuse layouts are different for different model years, but it's easy enough to check them with a mulltimeter.  With one side of the meter grounded both ends of the fuse should be at +12V with ignition on and engine running.

 

However the fuse will have blown for a reason so even if you replace it and it starts working it is likely it will blow again.  As Bob says it is most likely to be the wiring in the gaiters between the body and the doors or tailgate.

 

I'd check all if I were you.  Order to check:-

(i) Drivers door - as this gets used every time you drive the car

(ii) Tailgate - as this gets bent most

(iii) Front passenger door

(iv) Rear passenger doors

Posted

Thanks for the reply BHBOBHILL. Are you saying the power supply for the central electronic unit comes through the drivers door?

Brian

Posted

Thanks silverbeast, I have cheked all the fuses in the passenger fuse panel all ok but no 12V at the connector that seems to supply the power for the "computer". Do you have a wiring diagram or know where I could find one?

Brian

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Shorting in the door wiring will cause the control unit to draw too much current and hopefully blow the fuse before any damage is done, this can also stop other parts of the electical system working of they share a common fuse.

 

If you check the fuse that supplies the control unit (if you haven't already) you may find it blown.  If you find and replace a blown fuse and it blows again you could temporarily disconnect the drivers door wiring at the connection into the body and see if it still blows.  If it doesn't your remote should hopefully operate all the other doors, providing evidence that it's the wiring in the drivers door that's at fault.

Posted

make sure it says it will,as my old tis wont run on win 7.

Posted

I think it is called the central electronic unit and it lives as part of the fuse panel at the right end of the front panel under the dash board... above the drivers right foot.

Brian

Posted

Have you checked the fuses in the Battery Junction Box (under the battery cover at the front.  It has three fuses inside as well as the High current fusable links.  I believe one of these has a feed to one of the multifunction modules

Posted

Yes I checked those fuses as well but none of those wires are white so there must be a junction somewhere I realy don't want to have to remove the dashboard to trace the loom back.

Brian

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There seems to be a feed from F100 (3A) in the Battery Junction Box but that says Red/Black and also feeds from the CJB - Central Junction Box (Fuse Box where module is located).  It isn't clear module does what on the diagram to me.

 

Interior lighting is from F55 (5A) in CJB

 

Indicators and hazards seem to feed from F52 (20A) in CJB

 

Have you had the rear washer leaking into the passenger footwell.  There is a junction for earths in there (under plastic trim between seat and innser sill) that is just twisted together and has been known to corrode and cause all sorts of issues, though I thing hey are green

Edited by SilverBeast
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The only whites I have seen in wiring diagrams so far have been for heated mirrors/rear screen and tended to be outputs rather than inputs and seems to be fed from F51 (20A). If it's this it should go live if you turn on rear heated window

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Ah leak in passeger foot well! yes thinking back to when I first got the car about 4 years ago I did have the dreded leak from the rear washer pipe join I will have a look tomorrow. There seem to be white cables around the headlight controls. Screen heaters are another of the things not working. Fingers crossed fot the joint in the passenger footwell.

Brian

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The wiring diagram uses "C" numbers for the indexes on connectors where did you get P3 from?

 

In your first post you mention connector P3 pin 8 has the white wire.  Looking at the CJB is the connector on the layer immediately under the cover with all the fuses on it.  If so can you describe where it is located, ie bottom right, to right of fuse puller

 

For all the connectors on this layer I have

 

C6

                                 Fuse Puller            C2

         C7

         C5

 

         C4                           C1                  C3

Posted

That would be C7 then The P3 is molded on the cover......I don't think Haines gives a cross reference of the C numbers... not the best manual I have ever seen.

Brian

Posted (edited)

C7 Pin 8 shows as white and is the wire that feeds the Heated Rear Window and door mirror heaters I believe it should go live when the heated rear window switch goes live it is fed from F21 (20A) in the CJB via the K1 Rear window heater relay (also in the CJB)  you should hear it click when you press the switch.  It may need the engine running before it works though as I would hope the high current systems (front/rear screens) are disabled when it's off to aid starting.  It also switches K251 the heated mirrors relay (if fitted) also in the CJB. I suspect both of these are on the two lower levels of the CJB.

Edited by SilverBeast
Posted

Oops, a further look at the circuit board now makes me think that the "computer" power supply actualy should be on C7 Pin 7 not pin 8. I have not had a chance to look at the car yet.

Brian

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