1.9Tdi 6Spd Manual 90 Ps Driveshaft Problem

[B@rnstormer]

I'm loathe to post this as a new topic because I'm certain it will have been brought up here umpteen times but a search using the search facility has so far proved fruitless. If there's a helpful thread about this already could somebody please point me in the right direction? Sorry if I'm cutting a short story long......

 

We were given a 1.9Tdi MKII Galaxy LX (90 PS) 6 speed manual (engine code ANU I think) around Christmas time and have used it daily without (fingers crossed) any major issues despite it having over 218,000 on the clock.

 

Last week I tried to pull away from a roundabout in traffic after a long motorway run and found that there was just a vibration, rumbling and grinding noise no matter what gear I tried. RAC towed us to the menders where our mechanic pointed out that there's a very common issue with the driveshaft splines going. It's the offside, and we were told by the garage that we'd need new inner and intermediate shafts. They gave us part numbers 1140358 and 1313097. It was going to be over £500 to do the job. No problem, I thought, I can get both bits for £90 on eBay. So I found a listing which mentioned those 2 part numbers, checked with the seller that those were the correct parts, which they confirmed they were, and went ahead and ordered them.

 

The parts arrived as a kit, my wife rushed them round to the garage, and I waited for a call. Eventually the mechanic called to say that the inner shaft, 1313097, seemed to be fine but the intermediate shaft (with the bearing) was wrong (1140358). It's "An inch too short between the bearing and the flange". I contacted the supplier who said that's because I've got the 90 PS engine and it uses different shafts, these shafts were indeed for a 6 speed manual but with a 115 PS or 130 PS engine.

 

So I thought I'd go online again and get the correct shaft, but I couldn't find one anywhere. Various suppliers told me it was a main dealer only part, and today Ford have quoted me over £305 + vat. Bit pricey for me I'm afraid. They are very scarce even as used parts, it seems.

 

So.... Does anybody know the equivalent VW and/or Seat part numbers for this shaft? I've seen other posts talking about a shaft supplier in Poland but these are not for the 90 PS engine and will not fit our Galaxy therefore. Has anybody had any luck finding shafts for a 90 PS Galaxy? Anybody know where I can get them at sensible prices, ie not more than a week's wages?

 

Any help will be very much appreciated.

 

PS, since we've had the car we've had a "Clunk" when going up through the lower gears. Presumably this was the first and only warning that the splines were going - I didn't know this back then.

 

Cheers all.

 

 

[Bigjeeze]

I am interested in this one as I don't think there is a difference between the two engines with the same gearbox.

 

Let us know how you get on.

[seatkid]

I checked on VAG catalog http://www.auto-parts.spb.ru/cat/au/au.mycat?SelMd&t=MyWLTfkli02_JYtNcX/jdAJk0mtgfNbn9i_LTQJ6C30zJYky0wePQTMTzVUzBYvHPnZLzJclkUGpDA9LsyegcJvEQwl/37OSWtW_4YBMUYAkf7HTXGeIbGMt64/DxMLTRHM6C4MhtsbhVwQsdwe7LjuBBecYUcMuehBeLxwDGoxDZhUBhjuEz9AkTA4rKnP2oQxJybHI3WVj and it seems the driveshafts are different....

[xavier]

I'd suggest emailing or calling J&R who advertise the driveshafts on ebay to see if they can source / suggest an option. I note they do an intermediate CV joint though from what I recall it's the splines on the shaft that go.

[B@rnstormer]

I checked on VAG catalog http://www.auto-parts.spb.ru/cat/au/au.mycat?SelMd&t=MyWLTfkli02_JYtNcX/jdAJk0mtgfNbn9i_LTQJ6C30zJYky0wePQTMTzVUzBYvHPnZLzJclkUGpDA9LsyegcJvEQwl/37OSWtW_4YBMUYAkf7HTXGeIbGMt64/DxMLTRHM6C4MhtsbhVwQsdwe7LjuBBecYUcMuehBeLxwDGoxDZhUBhjuEz9AkTA4rKnP2oQxJybHI3WVj and it seems the driveshafts are different....

 

Thanks for this useful info. Yes, the intermediate driveshaft for the 90PS is definitely different to those for the 115PS and the 130PS. It's the bit between the support bearing and the 6-pointed star-shaped flange at the end that's different, giving an overall difference in length of around 1 inch. The 6-pointed flange at the end is more concave on the 90PS version (a deeper dish shape) I believe.

 

There do not appear to be any of these on eBay at present, old or new, and I have put requests on Breakeryard and Breakerlink with no success so far. I have also visited our local(ish) scrapyard where I found 2 Sharans and 2 Galaxies, 3 of which were diesel, and all of those three were MK1's or automatics or had the AUY engine. I need one for the ANU engine.

 

The search continues.....

[B@rnstormer]

There's a thought playing on my mind, did VW/Ford/Seat use the driveshafts for the Sharan/Galaxy/Alhambra on any other vehicles in their ranges? For example, does anybody know if they used the same intermediate driveshaft on the Sharan as they did on the 1.9 Golf Tdi of the same era? (that was just an example, by the way).

[xavier]

have you tried getting a price from vw for the shaft?

[B@rnstormer]

have you tried getting a price from vw for the shaft?

I tried via a contact I have within TPS but he said they couldn't do anything without a VW chassis number. Being a Galaxy, will it have a VW chassis number? I don't know whether the chassis is Ford or VW. I considered 2 options, either 1) I get hold of a VW chassis number off someone's Sharan with a 90hp engine, or 2) I find somebody who can give me the VW part number for what I need.

 

Any ideas please?

[B@rnstormer]

ZSB 409-30Spoke to somebody at VW today who is looking into it for me but wants the gearbox code/number. I have a feeling it's "EHL" but I need to verify that. I also noticed a part number "ZSB 409-30" which looks like it MIGHT be the part number for the intermediate driveshaft for an Alhambra 1.9 Tdi with a 6 speed gearbox.

[B@rnstormer]

I've had a response from a Ford parts supplier this evening, and they have identified the correct driveshaft for the 90 HP engine with 6 speed transmission as 1140359 (1140358 being the part I bought on eBay and which turned out to be wrong for the 90 HP engine).

 

The cost of the part is £171.76 + £5.50 delivery + 20% VAT = £212.71

 

Still very expensive for what it is in my opinion but at least I've got the part number and I can fall back on this quote if one doesn't turn up elsewhere 2nd hand.

 

Hopefully this information may also help other people who are looking for the same part as me in future and are finding they are getting nowhere.

Edited September 27, 2013 by B@rnstormer

[B@rnstormer]

[seatkid]

If its an ANU engine post 2000

 

Checking VAG catalog it seems its 7M3 407 271 G

 

 check these people.....

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-SHARAN-ALHAMBRA-6-SPEED-MANUAL-FRONT-DRIVE-SHAFT-CV-JOINTS-7M3-407-271-T-/400307470820?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d342f41e4

 

or

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-SHARAN-1-9TDi-2-0-PETROL-ABS-FRONT-DRIVESHAFT-2006-ON-FITS-BKV-ANU-ATM-/170751501961?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27c1952689

 

but they have a T suffix so tread carefully

Edited September 27, 2013 by seatkid

[B@rnstormer]

If its an ANU check these people.....

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-SHARAN-ALHAMBRA-6-SPEED-MANUAL-FRONT-DRIVE-SHAFT-CV-JOINTS-7M3-407-271-T-/400307470820?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d342f41e4

 

Thanks for that, seatkid. Whilst this seller looks very interesting, because they have loads of other bits at nice prices, the driveshaft they are selling is an outer driveshaft (has a CV joint at either end and goes between the wheel and the intermediate shaft, or the wheel and the differential, depending on whether it's N/S or O/S. Cracking price for a new part though, I'm adding them to favourite sellers list.

 

Cheers!

[seatkid]

Sorry, late night. I'll check again

 

 02N 409 344 E or  02N 409 344 F depending on engine I guess

Edited September 27, 2013 by seatkid

[seatkid]

http://www.kimbercarparts.co.uk/Transmission/CV-Boots-Joints-Drive-Shafts/Seat/Alhambra/%7BAll%7D/1.9/2011/Parts.aspx

 

Page 3 bottom refers to a SHAFT03 product - give the company a ring and ask

Edited September 27, 2013 by seatkid

[B@rnstormer]

http://www.kimbercarparts.co.uk/Transmission/CV-Boots-Joints-Drive-Shafts/Seat/Alhambra/%7BAll%7D/1.9/2011/Parts.aspx

 

Page 3 bottom refers to a SHAFT03 product - give the company a ring and ask

Thanks, I will probably give them a call tomorrow. I see the intermediate shafts are listed on page 4 but none of them say they are suitable for the ANU engine.

 

Another nice find though, thanks for your assistance with this. I never realised the 90 bhp model (and spares for it) were so scarce and expensive. If mine were the 115 bhp model I'd have had it all sorted for under £90 + labour to fit. Oh well.

 

I'm knocking off now, I'll have a look again tomorrow.

 

Cheers

[B@rnstormer]

I've been looking at VW part number 02G 409 356 C which seems to be a very similar shaft to what I'm looking for, but it's for a VW Transporter. It caught my eye because of the much deeper dish shape of the flange at the end.

 

I am in no way saying that this part is suitable but if I could find some technical details for it there's a chance it may be a contender for the replacement I'm looking for.

 

 

I'll keep you posted.

Edited September 28, 2013 by B@rnstormer

[xavier]

might be worth a trip into your local VW dealer and have a word with the parts guys, I also can't believe they came up with a special driveshaft for the 90bhp model. Actually did they do a vw equivalent?!

[B@rnstormer]

I found this online, it's about the closest match I've seen to what I think the shaft should look like:

 

 

I have no idea whether this would be any good, it's off a 2009 Sharan, but it looks like it's at least the right shape. Note how much deeper the end part is, like a sink plunger almost.

 

My search for this part over the past few weeks has been pretty much relentless. I'm usually very persistent but the lack of information coupled with the apparent scarceness of the part I need is getting me down a bit. I have tried getting one scrap but have been unlucky so far. If I don't find one at a sensible price 2nd hand by the end of this week I'm going to have to get a new one for over £200 and if you saw the rest of the car it's going onto, you'd see why I was reluctant to spend that kind of money.

 

I'm getting desperate now! It's a f#cking Ford Galaxy, there's one on every street in the country, it's not like I'm trying to buy bits for a vintage Ferrari is it.

[B@rnstormer]

might be worth a trip into your local VW dealer and have a word with the parts guys, I also can't believe they came up with a special driveshaft for the 90bhp model. Actually did they do a vw equivalent?!

 

Yes they did, but I don't know what the VW part number would be so I cannot even search for one properly. VW sent me away to get a VW chassis number, which I don't have because it's a Ford (unless it actually IS a VW chassis number, I just don't know).

[seatkid]

Yes they did, but I don't know what the VW part number would be so I cannot even search for one properly. VW sent me away to get a VW chassis number, which I don't have because it's a Ford (unless it actually IS a VW chassis number, I just don't know).

 

02N 409 344 E or  02N 409 344 F depending on engine ( one is 90bhp, other 155bhp et al - dont know which though)

[viperclive]

Try Silverlake car parts in botly Hampshire, they are on the internet and they are huge, got alsorts from them and they dispatch spares all over uk and further.

[xavier]

seatkid, is that a part no or chassis no?

 

I was in VW recently ordering the bits for retrofitting the load cover (cheers chris!), anyway the guy took ages (even with the part no's!) but even without the chassis no he found the bits I was interest in.

[B@rnstormer]

Try Silverlake car parts in botly Hampshire, they are on the internet and they are huge, got alsorts from them and they dispatch spares all over uk and further.

 

Thanks for that.

[B@rnstormer]

I've got a bit on order (2nd hand from scrap yard), have been assured it's the right part, and am awaiting delivery tomorrow. Will let you know whether it turns out to be right or wrong.