Another Locking Problem

[cugsy]

But its getting to sound very familiar. And I have tried the 'key in the door' 3 times method to program it.  

 This is what has happened. I saw the 1.9tdi 2001 (X) Ghia on saturday and the biggest problem was the single key. You had to lock the rear passenger door from the inside and then lock the passenger door which locked the boot and driver side passenger door. Then you had to lock the driver door. At this point there were flashes from the Drivers door led. The seller agreed to take it to Fords in Stevenage mid week and have it fixed . A new remote key was £190. Should be about an hour..

  Cue him at the garage for nearly 4 hours. The mechanic/technician said it was a deep (eh?) electrical fault and would need further investigation.  I've just spent an hour trying various combinations of key in door - key in ignition etc to try and program the fob they sold him. Its a ford key with 2 buttons - one shows a key symbol - is this to lock or unlock? Theres a tag on there too. 'Valeo transponder) 433Mhz.   Now, theres no led on the drivers door. Odd. I rang Ford at Stevenage and got told it needed further investigation at £105 per hour (luckily including vat...phew). 

  Should I put up with this farce or is there someone with a handy hint? I looked through the FAQs but nothing like this.  Help...it will drive the wife nuts! Then she'll do that to me.   John

[seatkid]

Broken wires in the door and tailgate gaitors (check all 6) are most likely the cause of your woes - very very common.

 

31. Examining wires in door to pillar rubber boot

 

(You can just pull the rubber gaitor back without disconnecting the plug)

 

 

43. Detailed instructions for Reparing wires in Door gaiters

 

44. Soldering Instruction Guide, Joining And Splicing Properly

Edited August 29, 2013 by seatkid

[cugsy]

Cheers Kid. I 'spected the pesky electrics. I don't see why those wonkers at Ford couldn't have a quick peep at the gaiters while it was running up a fare in their garage.  I'll have a play at the weekend and let you know what happens.  

   Oh, if you look like your avatar pic, can I come oop north and thank you in person?  Yours smuttily   John

[cugsy]

It must be a constant source of humour for these mechanic/technicians when someone who is fairly clueless mechanically or electrically pops into one of their shops and says ...'er,can you help?'.  A 'deep electrical problem' turned out to be too much effort for them to move the door gaiters back and find the broken wiring.  I've just bought a Haynes for the car and was having a general mooch about. I looked at the gaiters and the connectors and saw that the driver side passenger door gaiter was loose. It took less than 2 seconds to find 2 broken wires - the big brown earth and a red/brown (I'll check the diagram).  Now I have a better idea and when I have time I'll solder the buggers back together.  A thought just keeps popping into my head about mechanics at these big garages - lazy bastards! £300 for nothing.

[gregers]

lazy bastards! £300 for nothing.

 

YEP.

[cugsy]

Can anyone take a guess at what gauge the wiring in the doors is? The earth wiring(thick brown one) seems to be the worst. There are smaller gauge wires that are broken but they will all be different ratings,won't they? i don't want to be buying 50m of soemthing I only need a foot or so of. Any well used suppliers? john

[cugsy]

I took a trip to my friendly garage for a dollop of free advice. Their thinking is that the driver door actuator is faulty. A bugger to fix if it goes wrong...means taking the door to bits. I got a few rolls of wiring of various ratings and I'll sort what I can. But the consensus is to either live with it or spend more money on it. I think tyres and aircon refill first.  Another thing before I go. The rear boot/door panel is loose by a couple of inches or so. Is there meant to be a trim between the 3rd brake light and the door panel?  Ta

[daddyfixit]

^{go to a breakers, find a car with the loom on show and cut it out ??}

Edited September 2, 2013 by daddyfixit

[cugsy]

Not too many breakers around these parts that I know of...Breckland. I tried the one at Red Lodge but he was a lying tw%t...