Burning Dvd's For Car Use

[Guest Andyjflet]

Hi Guys

 

I wonder if you can help, I have an in car DVD system, the DVD players has the following marks on the front, "Compact Disc" "MP3 Audio" "Digital Audio Out" and DVD Player.

 

I am looking to make back up copies of my kids DVD's to play in the car. I have a decent PC with Ahead Nero player which has a facility to create discs it says, However I cant get them to play in the car, can anyone help ?

[Davetheref]

Hi Andy.

Is it the factory fitted Visteon unit?

I cut and copy a lot of DVD's and they all play on that unit. The other problem could be the make of disks you use as there are a lot of compatibillity problems with some make of disks and certain players.

The disks I use are Ritek and they are +R's.

Hope that helps

[suzuki91]

hi,

send me an e-mail ill help you out.

[Guest JIMSTDI]

what speed does your yr pc burner record at

i use -r as well as +r but i find the minus format plays on more than the plus

buying cheap blank dvd media is not a good idea as there are to many pitfalls on cheap dvd players(with playback)

 

ritek are good but i use vertabim they will playback on most dvd players

 

hope this helps

 

j

[Guest nelse]

From experience, like others have said avoid cheap unbranded disks, I have found any brand of ritek disk to work really well, even the cheaper bulkpaq brand, these can be found for around 35p a disk. However I have never used them with a Ford in car dvd player. Also i use dvd shrink when doing 1 to 1 copies, It allows you to rip things like foreign languages, trailers etc from the disk and compress what you keep to fit on single disks while retaining excellent quality.

[Guest Andyjflet]

Thanks guys I'm going to have a mess about with a pack of discs and my burning package and see what happnes.

[Guest wolfman62]

Try this for blank discs,

 

http://www.cd-rmedia.co.uk/index.mhtml

 

I use -r media as they are more compatible with a wider range of players.

[Guest JIMSTDI]

who may also want to try

 

http://www.blankshop.com/erol.html

http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/

[Guest Elwood]

You can't just copy a DVD movie, there's various types of protection that will prevent it. Also most Movie DVD's are larger than the DVD you can write - although thats changing - current DVD writers can only write to one layer which is 4.7Gb (give or take). Most Commercial movie DVD's are larger so won't fit.

 

You need a program that can rip the DVD, shrink and remove any RCE/Macrovision protection and if posssible make it region free.

 

If you using Nero, then look at www.dvdshrink.org, it'll rip a DVD and Burn it all in one go.

 

note however this entirely illegal unless you own the original and your are doing this for backups. which is still 'technically' illegal.

[Guest JIMSTDI]

a pre-packed dvd can be as much as 9gb and as elwood said r/w dvds are only 4.7gb long,unless you buy a double sided one which would then give you over 9.0gb

 

if you are recording for your own use then no problems

but most films will have macrovision .which is bulit into your unit ie dvd player,recorder or vcr which will be triggered buy the film...

 

and you will get is a scrambled picture etc

 

all the best

[Taliska]

Use DVDShrink to copy DVDs - it's free and it's excellent!

 

As said, it can strip bits you don't want (like Ads and foreign sound track) and will remove the finer detail from the images to squeeze it onto the single-sided DVD blanks.

 

Best of all you can easily just lift and squeeze the main film - so you put the disk in and it plays straight away - good for cars as you won't have to fiddle through the menu system!

 

BTW it removes macrovision and region protection - no worries there.

 

I use Verbatim -R media, with no problems for my backups.

 

I'd recommend getting a -RW disk as well, so that you can test out your backup of the film, before wasting a real bit of -R media. Write the film in one hit though to the -RW disk.

 

Basically, you're not going to notice the slightly lower quality video due to shrinkage on the main film - especially on a small screen. Some main films actually fit on a single-sided disk without the need for shrinking!

 

Despite the illegalities of copying DVDs - it would be insane to take the originals in the car and I wouldn't hestitate to back them up for use in cars.

 

I guess the problem that you might run into would be if you tried to play a 60Hz NTSC DVD (i.e. those from USA) in a unit that couldn't cope.

 

Best of luck,

 

Taliska

 

You can download it from here in the 'VOB Tools' section:

 

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/software2.htm

[Guest Andyjflet]

Thanks Taliska, I will have a play with it.

 

Another question, if I have a family movie on my PC can I copy it in a different format onto a standard CD-R ? to then play in the car ?

[Guest nelse]

Nero has the ability to create video cd's from multimedia files in formats such as avi's, mpeg's, does all the necesarry conversions, not sure if the in car dvd player will play video cd's but i'd be surprised if it didn't.

[Taliska]

VIDEO CDs are a slightly different kettle of fish when compared with DVDs - they have a lower bitrate hence a lower quality. They hold significantly less so aren't so useful for backing up movies onto.

 

I hasten to add that you will still need 'Burning' software to put the 'shrunk' DVD onto DVD Media - and Nero can certainly do that. :-)

 

I'd not be so confident as nelse about an in-car DVD player's ability to play VIDEO-CDs. There are two ways to check this - look in the manual for the DVD player or simply stick one in and see.

 

Basic advice would be to skip burning VIDEO CDs and go straight for DVDs - you won't lose as much quality transcribing your precious home video to DVD as you will to CD!

 

I've never bothered with VIDEO-CD (as I've only had a DVD burner) but I understand that they are worse quality than standard VHS tapes!

 

Taliska

[Ivor_E_Tower]

VCD's from the far East are better quality than VHS tapes :)

[Guest Idris]

agree with Ivor E Tower. A well encoded VCD is superior to VHS and doesnt suffer the degradation associated with a format where moving parts touch!

 

As for the differences, VCD is based on MPG1 encoding at a max of 1150Kb/s and a resolution of 352x288. DVD is based on MPG2 encoding up to 9.8Mbps at 720x576 (for PAL).

 

The DVD format also encapsulates lower bitrate movies on a disk and it is therefore possible to have a DVD with close to 10 hours of movie footage on it, encoded at a lower bitrate - this may be a solution for long car journeys so you dont need to remove the disk all the time!!!

 

As for copying the DVD, DVDShrink is probably the best out there, and if you have Nero it will automatically burn the disk for you. DVDShrink will also remove the DECSS encryption along with any macrovision present on the movie - it will also reset the region code if required.

 

As for media, I have been investigating the DVD-format in work for the past few months, and have been testing compatability across numerous players and media. I have come to the conclusion that the most compatible dye available at the moment is most definitely from Ritek, so when choosing your media you may have more chance of success if you pick a disk with a purple Ritek dye on it.

 

hope this helps!