Cutting Out

[Amarok]

Not sure why Toby is being critical that i dont have the correct socket ? I have about 300 sockets lying about, i just dont have the one that fits, so ive bought one to add to the collection.

 

The battery didnt take a charge, i left it going for 20 hours and nothing, it barely cranked the engine so ive ordered a new one plus plugs.

 

I cant get to the fuel filter, its under the car, i can get the fuel pump though as thats through the boot area. The fuel filter was changed 15k miles ago.

 

Once the bits arrive, i will have a go and post back, thanks for the ongoing assistance ;)

 

look under the car drivers side and you will see the fuel filter, you don't even need to jack it up. It is a throw away item and as I said before don't assume anything plus this would be the best point to check fuel flow. If like me due to petrol cost's you let your tank run dry frequently you could end up with a fuel filter that is blocked after 5000 miles ! At the end of the day its only purpose in life is to filter the crap that can block the injectors.

Edited October 27, 2011 by Amarok

[Amarok]

I have just read the orginal post due to the hijacking it is a tad confusing to say the least..

We start with an enquiry as to why the tickover is running high

 

1. More often than not the car starts first time from a cold start, but it suffers from a little bit of intermittent hunting on tickover, idling at just over 1000rpm when settled

 

this is classic Idle control valve fault, dirty throttle or air leak.

 

2. After a few minutes it cuts out completely, losing all power to PAS and ABS making it difficult to steer or brake properly, an obvious concern ! Usual routine is hazards on, ignition off, out of gear, restart straight away and off we go but this is obviously not ideal if out and about for any length of time.

again if on tick over it all points to icv etc

 

the orginal post was signed off with

 

3. Given the car seems to start pretty well when asked, im inclined to think the ignition system is OK but hard to tell.

 

I am leaning towards a fuelling issue, but the fuel filter was changed 15k miles ago so doubt its that. Possibly a relay 30 issue ? having trouble finding one anywhere though, no garage near me has one.

 

No engine lights are on which i am advised will be if there are error codes on the ECU

 

so to sum up it started ok BUT had a idle problem which on occasions would cut out.

 

again ALL the symptoms of a air leak/ ICV/ dirty throttle nothing to indicate a ignition fault like plug breakdown or rough running...

 

jump a couple of days and

 

Was great fun this morning, wouldnt start for ages, started, ran for 30 seconds and cut out - wouldnt start for love nor money on demand, finally started after 20 mins and with some 'persuasion' of the throttle, got me to the train station 2 miles away.

 

Would seem i have both issues !

 

Err No..

we no have a new problem was this after you had cleaned the valve or it just didn't start ??

[Amarok]

I have just read the orginal post due to the hijacking it is a tad confusing to say the least..

We start with an enquiry as to why the tickover is running high

 

1. More often than not the car starts first time from a cold start, but it suffers from a little bit of intermittent hunting on tickover, idling at just over 1000rpm when settled

 

this is classic Idle control valve fault, dirty throttle or air leak.

 

2. After a few minutes it cuts out completely, losing all power to PAS and ABS making it difficult to steer or brake properly, an obvious concern ! Usual routine is hazards on, ignition off, out of gear, restart straight away and off we go but this is obviously not ideal if out and about for any length of time.

again if on tick over it all points to icv etc

 

the orginal post was signed off with

 

3. Given the car seems to start pretty well when asked, im inclined to think the ignition system is OK but hard to tell.

 

I am leaning towards a fuelling issue, but the fuel filter was changed 15k miles ago so doubt its that. Possibly a relay 30 issue ? having trouble finding one anywhere though, no garage near me has one.

 

No engine lights are on which i am advised will be if there are error codes on the ECU

 

so to sum up it started ok BUT had a idle problem which on occasions would cut out.

 

again ALL the symptoms of a air leak/ ICV/ dirty throttle nothing to indicate a ignition fault like plug breakdown or rough running...

 

jump a couple of days and

 

Was great fun this morning, wouldnt start for ages, started, ran for 30 seconds and cut out - wouldnt start for love nor money on demand, finally started after 20 mins and with some 'persuasion' of the throttle, got me to the train station 2 miles away.

 

Would seem i have both issues !

 

Err No..

I feel we now have a NEW problem in that the car wont start..

 

 

funny enough I used to get EXACTLY the same problem till I fitted a new Fuel filter, it now starts on the button ;)

Edited October 28, 2011 by Amarok

[Zaz]

I had a go at cleaning the ICV after the car refused to start at all, i hadnt actually touched anything inbetween uses of the car so it was nothing i did that made it not start.

 

I will have a look for the fuel filter Sunday, i may just order a new one anyway while im at, 7 quid is no great shakes to rule that bit out, i have the battery and plugs on their way, a suitable socket and i 'may' order some HT leads only because the retaining clips on the ones present are broken (they still seem to sit securely)

 

Now, might sound a stupid question, but as i have disconnected the battery and am now being asked for a radio code, do i need to put that in to deactivate any immobilising system ? just an afterthought really as on previous cars ive not had to do that, have run Fords with the radio locked out.

[seatkid]

Radio code is lost if battery is disconnected but has nothing to do with immobiliser etc. They are unaffected.

 

Your non starting is likely to be battery problems I think.

[Amarok]

Sounds like we are back on track people ;)

I have a good feeling we are on the mend

[Zaz]

Finally had 5 minutes to have a look today, so while waiting for the battery to arrive i decided to test the relay by bridging the 30/87 slots...fired up straight away even with a virtually flat battery.

 

So, i managed to source a relay 30 from a local VW garage for 15 quid, will pick up later and at some point i will get the alternator checked just in case there is an issue charging the battery.

 

Fingers crossed :lol:

[vickigalaxylover]

My car is doing exactly the same thing and i have not found the answer have changed the relay done all the checks,including fuel filter except the plugs.

My car just seemed to die having sprayed the cleaner in the housing,i don't know if i overdid this and it has now clogged it up.

Is there a way to clean with some sort of solvent or just neat petrol.if the fuel pump is blocked how can i fix that,you see i to have the car just turning over and when i do this a few times the relay is physically warm to the touch does this mean the pump is working?

any help would be great.

many thanks. :blink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

you still have two funder mental unanswered issues here

 

1. You cant confirm the fuel pump is running (relay 30) try disconnecting the fuel filter outlet and with a handy rag get a helper to switch on the ignition, no fuel flow Relay problem

 

2. Spark plug socket (absolutely essential piece of kit) you need to see if the plugs are wet, or damaged or gap closed etc

 

the engine fitted to your vehicle is one of the easier galaxy engines to work on [trust me I have a V6 and that is a nightmare!!]

 

your approach needs to be check and check again DON'T assume anything

 

May I suggest that the CAT maybe clogged, I experienced all of above, it cut out during a long fast journey, all electrics and mechanicals were ok, eventually she refused to start at all, so mobile mechanic came out and checked everything i checked. the cat was last, but he shook it and sounded like pebbles on a beach, replaced cat and now purs.

[seatkid]

In Zaz's case it was a relay 30 problem.

 

Your test for a kaput CAT is a handy tip though.

[Ants1983]

I have a 97 VW Sharan, i'm having similar problems but having trouble locating the Idle Control Valve could anyone give me a pointer as what and where to look for ( i don't know much about under the bonnet thank you