2328david Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 Here we go then, have spent the last few days looking for the mirror control relay, which according to the lying handbook should be in position 1&2, had a look and low no relay!(theres absolutely nothing there just 2 blank holes!!), then checked with VW who said the same thing should be in position 1&2 on the fuse box relay location, so the question is :- Is there a seperate relay for the wing mirrors? and if there is where the hell is it? Have new relay 361 for the sharan mirrors which when fitted should enable the mirrors to fold in when the central locking is activated, and fold out when the central locking is de-activated, have had the mirrors on a bench all wired up to the relay, so know they are working okay, was hoping to change the relay and maybe have to run 2 wires up to mirror control switch, to enable the fold option, but can't find the freaking relay!! Or is the mirror adjustment part of the GEM unit? any help anyone? Quote
Mirez Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 Some more info would be handy. You don't say what you are retrofitting this to? Sharan? Alhambra or Galaxy? What year? Spec? Engine? The wiring's changed a lot over the years!!! Generally though, Ford's don't have the mirror control relay as they never got the folding mirror option so basic mirror control ts handled via the CEC module. Quote
2328david Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Posted March 28, 2011 OOPPPSSS! Sorry should have said am trying to retro-fit the mirrors to a 53plate 1.9TDi Galaxy Ghia, have got the relay to control the mirrors (i.e enable the powerfold option) but was hoping to just swap the relays over and only have to wire in the power fold function. Any suggestions? Quote
Mirez Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 Right if its going into a UK Mk2 Galaxy then you 100% won't have a controlling relay for the mirrors as its direct drive from the CJB Fuse to the switch/controller in the drivers door - no other ECU's or relays. Its still not tricky to do though just a little more wiring! I took a total of 4 wires into the passenger door for fold+, fold-, Gnd and Indicate (if you arn't wiring the indicators in then you only need the two wires). I used the older relay which purely folds in and out on the switch control but then I modified it and added my own wiring to automatically fold out when the ignition is switched on+ 5 seconds and fold in on ignition off+5 seconds. Quote
2328david Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Posted March 28, 2011 Cheers Mirez, so I take it I just run in the power fold wiring? When I was testing the 361 relay it automaticlly folded the mirrors when it loses the 12v supply, so that should be automatic when they are finally fitted. Do you ignore the existing wiring or just run the power fold wiring in? Only reason I ask is I've got both door looms from the Alhambra the mirrors came off so was toying with the idea of running the wiring into the boot using the loom pins as the mirror wiring has been removed from the looms so have all pins to connect to the door-bodywork through the boot to make a better job(so it looks original too )or is there an easier way that I haven't thought of? Thanks for Info !! Sorry If I've repeated myself but just trying to get this clear in my head before I attack the car! Dave Quote
2328david Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Posted March 28, 2011 Mirez, Yes it is a UK MK2, By the way do you know which fuse covers the mirrors?nothing in the owners guide about a fuse? Stupid boy I really need to read tings properly! Sorry! Thanks again Quote
Mirez Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 Fuse 2, 10Amp (Second in from the left). The only wiring I ran was the additional wires for folding and side repeaters (Which you won't need to worry about as its only the Sharan ones that have them built in). If you have both side of the connector's pin's then it should be nice and easy - I've added an additonal loom and connector to each door but then I ran a multitude of additional wiring in at the same time and there wern't enough free pins on the original connector lol. The original mirror connectors should fit the alhambra mirrors, the sharan ones have a different connector then the normal one to add the additional pins needed for the repeater wiring but the alhambra ones should plug strait in and give you all movement and heat without any additional wiring. Good luck! Where abouts in the south west are you? Quote
2328david Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Posted March 28, 2011 Mirez you are a star!! Thanks for that info! I am just outside Cardiff, Bridgend, I think southwest was about as close as i could get when i joined. Great site by the way!! Once again thanks, will hopefully have them fitted when i'm next on my days off about a fortnight LOL Quote
Mirez Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 No worries! Do you have the mirror wiring diagrams? If not chuck me a PM with your email address in and I'll send them over to you...<BR> Quote
2328david Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Posted March 28, 2011 Cheers! will do, it's gotta be easier than trying to read the Ford/VW wiring diagrams! LOL Quote
Ginettamad Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Are the golf mirrors the same but possibly with a different pillar attachment? Not many late Sharan or Alhabra Mirrors about yet in scrap yards? Do they reduce wind noise by much? H Edited March 30, 2011 by Ginettamad Quote
Mirez Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 [quote name='Ginettamad' timestamp='1301488142' post='162931'] Are the golf mirrors the same but possibly with a different pillar attachment? Not many late Sharan or Alhabra Mirrors about yet in scrap yards? Do they reduce wind noise by much? H [/quote] Yeah the golf mirror, cover and mechanism is the same but the base plates different. More annoyingly is that the base plate is compressed onto the housing assembly so you can't undo it ans swap them over - unfortunately you need a sharan/alhambra mirror. TBH I never had any issue with noise with the old Galaxy mirrors and didn't notice any difference other then in size, the mirror is noticeably smaller then the old one which makes it just that little bit harder to maneuver Quote
edva Posted October 8, 2011 Report Posted October 8, 2011 Which sharan have power folding mirrors? Quote
edva Posted October 8, 2011 Report Posted October 8, 2011 A litlle OT, but maybe You know did newer sharan mirrors with turn signal is bolt on on '00 oldest model? Quote
Mirez Posted October 8, 2011 Report Posted October 8, 2011 [quote name='edva' timestamp='1318084766' post='168223'] A litlle OT, but maybe You know did newer sharan mirrors with turn signal is bolt on on '00 oldest model? [/quote] Physically yes, electrically no - you'll need to rewire. Quote
bofus Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 How do I get my mirrors to fold in when the central locking is activated....the switch on the drivers door is a bind.....is it a recode or additional wiring/relay? Quote
edva Posted October 9, 2012 Report Posted October 9, 2012 Maybe someone have wiring diagram? Especially where the power folding mirrors are connected. Quote
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