Aircon Problems

[Trigz]

[quote name='seatkid' post='71339' date='Jul 24 2006, 22:42:14']
[quote name='Trigz' post='71336' date='Jul 24 2006, 22:38:04'] will hopefully sort it out with a little help from you friendly people !!
[/quote]We don't do miracles.....
[/quote]

I dont care as long as you're friendly!! that is all that matters!!

[Marky]

Oh man!!! Done all the right things...always on auto...run on 'LO' once a week in the winter months and all has been fine until two days ago when the 'chill' started to subside!! Now blowing just warm air but no flashing from the CC unit?? Booked in at the dealers for Monday morning, thankfully still got two months warranty left!

Am I right in assuming that there should be no reason for a 'regas' unless you've actually got a leak or does this R134a refridgerant need topping up/changing after a certain amount of time? I just know that the dealers will come at me with 'a bill for regassing as this is not covered by the warranty' so want to be armed with some ammo to throw back at them!!

Cheers, Mark

[jkspoff]

Have a very close look at the small print of your warranty, some cover regasses if the loss of gas is a result of a failed component, i.e. leaking condensor or evaporator etc etc, providing your car has had its regular service intervals.

[TimsBamma]

Alhambra 02 SE PD115, bought the car 2 months ago (50k miles) with failed Condenser. had it replaced at the Garage that had diagnosed it for the previous owner.

[jkspoff]

On a recent trip to Portugal I was chatting to my usual airport transfer driver about his VW Sharan, it was a 2001 model and had covered 280,000km, and the only thing he had ever replaced was the usual wear and tear items. He had no trouble at all with the A/C system surprisingly. I wonder if this is because its used almost every day of the year, or if its due to the dryer climate not rotting the components ? There are a fleet of these Galaxys and Sharans in the company he works for, all of which have had no problems with A/C as far as he is aware. The heater booster I wouldn't have thought was switched on often, maybe occasionally through January when the nights get cold.
I did a bit of reseach into the Air Con systems on these foreign spec vehicles, and they are fitted with exactly the same size condensor and other A/C equipment as the UK spec vehicles. I wonder if their maintenance schedule includes A/C servicing every 10k.
It would appear that the best country to use these Gals/Sharans etc are scorchio ones !

[Ogben Schmutzel]

[quote name='Marky' post='71492' date='Jul 26 2006, 23:00:32']
....... Booked in at the dealers for Monday morning, thankfully still got two months warranty left!

Cheers, Mark
[/quote]

Just be careful that they don

[AndeeeH]

This has probably been posted before but it seems aircon problems are a 'known' item:
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN No.112/2002
Car and Light/Medium Commercial 28.11.2002


Section: 412-03

Model: Galaxy 2000.75, built up to and including 21.07.2002 (build code 2M)

Markets: All

Subject: Air conditioning system inoperative or inadequate cooling power; leaks in the air conditioning system

Summary

Should a customer express concern that the air conditioning system is inoperative or there is inadequate cooling power and there are leaks in the air conditioning system, the probable cause is a corroded/damaged aluminium cover on the air conditioning condenser or a damaged O-ring. To rectify this concern, a new air conditioning condenser should be installed.
Andy.

[seatkid]

[quote name='AndeeeH' post='81344' date='Oct 1 2006, 21:14:54']This has probably been posted before but it seems aircon problems are a 'known' item[/quote]Really?
Are you sure?
Never heard of aircon giving a problem on the Galaxy....

Pass the brandy ol man.....

[Biscuit]

Had problems with air con since i got the car!
every time got it regassed it held vacuum and pressure but
stopped working after 2 weeks.
I think its finally sorted now when the garage regassed it last week
after gas had gone in they fired the engine up and turned air con on full
with machine still running.Outside temp 6.5 degrees inside car 5.2 degrees!
result (touch wood)!!!!

[Guest gooner52]

i had this problem on a scorpio ,need a new condenser

let us know how u get on

[Biscuit]

[quote name='gooner52' post='87766' date='Nov 10 2006, 21:14:26']
i had this problem on a scorpio ,need a new condenser

let us know how u get on
[/quote]

Hi Gooner
how much do condensers relieve your wallet of then?

[AndeeeH]

[quote name='seatkid' post='87158' date='Nov 7 2006, 21:05:55']
[quote name='AndeeeH' post='81344' date='Oct 1 2006, 21:14:54']This has probably been posted before but it seems aircon problems are a 'known' item[/quote]Really?
Are you sure?
Never heard of aircon giving a problem on the Galaxy....

Pass the brandy ol man.....
[/quote]

'Known' referring to the fact that what followed is from the TSB's on TIS.

'TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN No.112/2002
Car and Light/Medium Commercial 28.11.2002' probably gives that away!!!!!!! Andy.

[Guest gooner52]

did u have it tested 4 leaks,they put a dye in the system so that they can tell where its leaking from

best find out where its leaking from 1st

if thats what the problem is

j

[Biscuit]

[quote name='gooner52' post='87773' date='Nov 10 2006, 21:39:18']
did u have it tested 4 leaks,they put a dye in the system so that they can tell where its leaking from

best find out where its leaking from 1st

if thats what the problem is

j
[/quote]

No visible leaks with tracer dye in system.
as i said it holds the pressure
if it goes by next week its going back to garage!

[seatkid]

[quote name='AndeeeH' post='87771' date='Nov 10 2006, 21:28:59']
[quote name='seatkid' post='87158' date='Nov 7 2006, 21:05:55']
[quote name='AndeeeH' post='81344' date='Oct 1 2006, 21:14:54']This has probably been posted before but it seems aircon problems are a 'known' item[/quote]Really?
Are you sure?
Never heard of aircon giving a problem on the Galaxy....

Pass the brandy ol man.....
[/quote]

'Known' referring to the fact that what followed is from the TSB's on TIS.

'TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN No.112/2002
Car and Light/Medium Commercial 28.11.2002' probably gives that away!!!!!!! Andy.
[/quote]
Andy.....you have a faulty sarcasm sensor........

[AndeeeH]

[quote name='seatkid' post='87783' date='Nov 10 2006, 23:55:52']
[quote name='AndeeeH' post='87771' date='Nov 10 2006, 21:28:59']
[quote name='seatkid' post='87158' date='Nov 7 2006, 21:05:55']
[quote name='AndeeeH' post='81344' date='Oct 1 2006, 21:14:54']This has probably been posted before but it seems aircon problems are a 'known' item[/quote]Really?
Are you sure?
Never heard of aircon giving a problem on the Galaxy....

Pass the brandy ol man.....
[/quote]

'Known' referring to the fact that what followed is from the TSB's on TIS.

'TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN No.112/2002
Car and Light/Medium Commercial 28.11.2002' probably gives that away!!!!!!! Andy.
[/quote]
Andy.....you have a faulty sarcasm sensor........
[/quote]

As sarcasm is 'the lowest form of wit' my sensor must be set too high and I can't find it on TIS to be able to rectify the fault. Andy.

[Biscuit]

[quote name='BISCUIT' post='87765' date='Nov 10 2006, 21:11:28']
Had problems with air con since i got the car!
every time got it regassed it held vacuum and pressure but
stopped working after 2 weeks.
I think its finally sorted now when the garage regassed it last week
after gas had gone in they fired the engine up and turned air con on full
with machine still running.Outside temp 6.5 degrees inside car 5.2 degrees!
result (touch wood)!!!!
[/quote]


Hi all
guess what air con packed up again 2 weeks to the day after last regas
the place i bought the car from is sending it to thier local Ford dealer for them to have
a look at it!!!!!
It will probably cost them a small fortune! as it is still under thier warranty
hopefully will finally find out what the problem was
will let you all know

[galaxybox]

BISCUIT,
I don't mean this in a horrible way but I'm so glad that I am not the only one experiencing gas leakage(the aircon type).

I have had a 2001 1.9 TDI since May 2006. It had a broken compressor when I bought it and no gas in the system.

6 Months later, and following 13 visits to two different Aircon specialists, it still does,'t work.

Compressor was fixed fine for about

[Jimbo73]

I have a Galaxy and up to now no problems with the air con. I just leave it to run generally on ECON at 22 . the odd time when I want it cool I put in on AUTO. I do run it on full power LO for about 5 minutes a month, and that is the only thing I do because I have to do it with my Passat.

After reading the thread there seems to be a consensus of what the right thing to do with the air con is. IE. run it on Auto always and on lo for a couple of mins. Where dfoes this come from and what is the right thing to do?

[Biscuit]

[quote name='BISCUIT' post='89174' date='Nov 22 2006, 16:01:56']
[quote name='BISCUIT' post='87765' date='Nov 10 2006, 21:11:28']
Had problems with air con since i got the car!
every time got it regassed it held vacuum and pressure but
stopped working after 2 weeks.
I think its finally sorted now when the garage regassed it last week
after gas had gone in they fired the engine up and turned air con on full
with machine still running.Outside temp 6.5 degrees inside car 5.2 degrees!
result (touch wood)!!!!
[/quote]


Hi all
guess what air con packed up again 2 weeks to the day after last regas
the place i bought the car from is sending it to thier local Ford dealer for them to have
a look at it!!!!!
It will probably cost them a small fortune! as it is still under thier warranty
hopefully will finally find out what the problem was
will let you all know
[/quote]


Hi all
picked Gal up from garage today (had it since Tuesday)
it had been into frauds for them to diagnose the problem
it turns out the condenser was duff!!!!!
had a new one fitted and there seems to be a lot more resistance
on the compressor now than before when it was just regassed.
Hopefully problem solved and job done
(arent warranties great?)

[galaxybox]

Hi all
picked Gal up from garage today (had it since Tuesday)
it had been into frauds for them to diagnose the problem
it turns out the condenser was duff!!!!!
had a new one fitted and there seems to be a lot more resistance
on the compressor now than before when it was just regassed.
Hopefully problem solved and job done
(arent warranties great?)
[/quote]

hi Biscuit,

Will you please keep me posted on this one. My Aircon garage swear there is nothing wrong with condensor. When you say it was duff, what do you mean. was it holed somewhere. I'm loosing all the gas every 7-10 days, yet no sign of dye leaking from condensor. seems this and the compressor are the most common things to go wrong. I'm very intested to know if you loose the gas again.

GalaxyBox

[Mardle]

[quote name='HJT' post='15036' date='May 13 2004, 09:31:19']
We need to do something about this aircon problem. As Seatkid has mentioned on an aircon post it would be useful to see how many people have had problems. Those who have had problems also need to contact [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/contact/index.shtml"]BBC Watchdog[/url] to get this issue out to the public as I'm sure there are other people who don't come to this forum who have had aircon problems with their Shalaxys.
[/quote]
Connecting Pipe failed to start with shortly followed by compressor. Car only 18 months old with 25K on clock when this happened.

[Biscuit]

[quote name='galaxybox' date='Dec 10 2006, 23:39:12' post='91657']
Hi all
picked Gal up from garage today (had it since Tuesday)
it had been into frauds for them to diagnose the problem
it turns out the condenser was duff!!!!!
had a new one fitted and there seems to be a lot more resistance
on the compressor now than before when it was just regassed.
Hopefully problem solved and job done
(arent warranties great?)
[/quote]

hi Biscuit,

Will you please keep me posted on this one. My Aircon garage swear there is nothing wrong with condensor. When you say it was duff, what do you mean. was it holed somewhere. I'm loosing all the gas every 7-10 days, yet no sign of dye leaking from condensor. seems this and the compressor are the most common things to go wrong. I'm very intested to know if you loose the gas again.

GalaxyBox
[/quote]


Hi GalaxyBox
there was no sign of any leakfrom the condensor (green dye)
i can only presume it was a little pin prick of a hole to small enough to let the gas out but not
the dye!
I too was loosing every two weeks so ill be checking and let you know

[Biscuit]

[quote name='BISCUIT' post='91730' date='Dec 11 2006, 18:07:17'][quote name='galaxybox' post='91657' date='Dec 10 2006, 23:39:12']
Hi all
picked Gal up from garage today (had it since Tuesday)
it had been into frauds for them to diagnose the problem
it turns out the condenser was duff!!!!!
had a new one fitted and there seems to be a lot more resistance
on the compressor now than before when it was just regassed.
Hopefully problem solved and job done
(arent warranties great?)[/quote]

hi Biscuit,

Will you please keep me posted on this one. My Aircon garage swear there is nothing wrong with condensor. When you say it was duff, what do you mean. was it holed somewhere. I'm loosing all the gas every 7-10 days, yet no sign of dye leaking from condensor. seems this and the compressor are the most common things to go wrong. I'm very intested to know if you loose the gas again.

GalaxyBox
[/quote]


Hi GalaxyBox
there was no sign of any leakfrom the condensor (green dye)
i can only presume it was a little pin prick of a hole to small enough to let the gas out but not
the dye!
I too was loosing every two weeks so ill be checking and let you know
[/quote]



Hi all
Merry Christmas, i trust you all had a good one.
it has now been 3 weeks since the Gal had new condenser fitted
just been out to check if aircon still works and it does
outside temp 7.5degrees, centre vent temp 3degrees
Halleujah

[RADIOTWO]

[quote name='BISCUIT' post='93568' date='Dec 28 2006, 20:08:49'][quote name='BISCUIT' post='91730' date='Dec 11 2006, 18:07:17'][quote name='galaxybox' post='91657' date='Dec 10 2006, 23:39:12']
Hi all
picked Gal up from garage today (had it since Tuesday)
it had been into frauds for them to diagnose the problem
it turns out the condenser was duff!!!!!
had a new one fitted and there seems to be a lot more resistance
on the compressor now than before when it was just regassed.
Hopefully problem solved and job done
(arent warranties great?)[/quote]

hi Biscuit,

Will you please keep me posted on this one. My Aircon garage swear there is nothing wrong with condensor. When you say it was duff, what do you mean. was it holed somewhere. I'm loosing all the gas every 7-10 days, yet no sign of dye leaking from condensor. seems this and the compressor are the most common things to go wrong. I'm very intested to know if you loose the gas again.

GalaxyBox
[/quote]


Hi GalaxyBox
there was no sign of any leakfrom the condensor (green dye)
i can only presume it was a little pin prick of a hole to small enough to let the gas out but not
the dye!
I too was loosing every two weeks so ill be checking and let you know
[/quote]



Hi all
Merry Christmas, i trust you all had a good one.
it has now been 3 weeks since the Gal had new condenser fitted
just been out to check if aircon still works and it does
outside temp 7.5degrees, centre vent temp 3degrees
Halleujah
[/quote]


Hi Biscuit

No it cannot be working !!

See post entitled "Conflicting Advice On Aircon"

Radiotwo