Mikef Posted October 17, 2010 Report Posted October 17, 2010 Had a strange new problem today...I have a 2002 Galaxy, just basic air-con, not climate control. With the fan switch in poistions 1 and 2, the aircon works as normal, move the blower to position 3 and 4, the air con turns off (well, the light on the air con switch goes out). Anyone come across tis before? cheers mikef Quote
Mikef Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Posted October 17, 2010 After playing about on the drive earlier, it seems like the fan isn't working with the blower in positions 1 and 2, but does in positions 3 and 4. I'm not too clear why that would turn off the air con but guess thats the problem. I'll go searching for 'none working fan' notes cheers all mikef Quote
chromedome Posted October 17, 2010 Report Posted October 17, 2010 Sounds like another dead hedgehog. Seriously there is a resistor pack, called the hedgehog, located on the left hand side of the heater box behind the glovebox, normally coloured red or green. It is a common fault not just with the Galaxy but on most cars. Easy job to replace. Quote
Mikef Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Posted October 17, 2010 Cheers...I've had a look round the forum and found the references, but theres no 'how to'...does it simply plug in? When I had to change resistors becuase of a similar problem on my other car, it was a day off work, remove most of the dash, solder new resistors in place...quite a faff! ta! mikef Quote
chromedome Posted October 17, 2010 Report Posted October 17, 2010 As far as I know it's a modular item connected via a plug and held on with two screws. Remove the glove box and there it is, ten minute job. Makes a change for something to be easy on a Galaxy. Quote
Mikef Posted October 18, 2010 Author Report Posted October 18, 2010 As far as I know it's a modular item connected via a plug and held on with two screws. Remove the glove box and there it is, ten minute job. Makes a change for something to be easy on a Galaxy. Thanks, nice to know its a simple job. I'll work out later the part number for a 2002 Galaxy then hunt around the internet!! Cheers mikef Quote
Mikef Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Posted October 19, 2010 Reading aruond the forum, it looks like the part number I need is 1104837 (a green one for none climate control...). I cant find any at parts stores online or at a scrappie, so its back to Ford and Quote
john1doherty Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 mikefthe resistor pack is common to galaxys, alhambras and sharans with vw being the cheaper of the 3 at only 26 quid so you could save a few quid here john Quote
antzatgalaxy Posted January 10, 2011 Report Posted January 10, 2011 Thought I would add this in case anyone stumbled across this post with a similar problem. For my none climate control model, I also noticed that when the resistor pack failed, the air con light goes out on the fan settings that still work (?!). I am not sure why this is. Usually when the resistor pack fails some or all of the fan settings stop working, although 4 (full on) should always work because this doesn't go through the resistor pack (only 1, 2 and 3 do). Having got my resistor pack out (green one) from behind the glove box, I had a quick test and concluded that it was the thermal fuse which had failed (continuity between pins 2, 3, and 4 but none to pin 1, open across the thermal fuse). So if all your setting go at the same time, it may well be the thermal fuse that has gone. If you're interested the thermal fuse is a little spring contact switch held closed by a pellet of melt-able material. So when it melts, it is not resettable. There is a company that actually repairs these resistor packs for about Quote
bfc1001 Posted January 10, 2011 Report Posted January 10, 2011 got the same problem myself with my blower. i think id be able to repair myself but was wondering is the glove box a pig to remove or just a couple of screws? mine s a mk2 galaxy on a 03 plate. Quote
acecard Posted January 10, 2011 Report Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) got the same problem myself with my blower. i think id be able to repair myself but was wondering is the glove box a pig to remove or just a couple of screws? mine s a mk2 galaxy on a 03 plate.I found removing the glovebox the most difficult part of the job. Tried to follow instructions on here but didn't work out. It feels like some cheap bit of plastic is about to snap. The thing eventually collapsed whereupon I was ablle to see better how it hangs together but it's never been quite the same again. I keep it locked otherwise it has a nasty tendency to fall apart when hitting a bump. I think you hit the problem on the head - glovebox is a pig. There again, it might just be me.(2006 55 reg 1.9 Tdi with attitude) Good idea btw about just replacing the thermal fuse. I't usually just that. After the first time. I kept the old resistor pack and stored it along with the Maplins thermal fuses so I don't have to fork out too much in future (it's failed twice in 5 years). Resistor pack itself could be o/c but most likely the fuse. Edited January 10, 2011 by acecard Quote
bfc1001 Posted January 10, 2011 Report Posted January 10, 2011 cheers fella. daft question but where s the thermal fuse, in the fuse box? Quote
acecard Posted January 10, 2011 Report Posted January 10, 2011 cheers fella. daft question but where s the thermal fuse, in the fuse box?No - the thermal fuse sits on top of the resistor pack. Easily seen once removed from motor. Quote
acecard Posted January 10, 2011 Report Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) cheers fella. daft question but where s the thermal fuse, in the fuse box?No - the thermal fuse sits on top of the resistor pack. Easily seen once removed from motor.And here it is - sorry about pic qualityJust verify it is the thermal fuse by testing continuity across it, otherwise problem is probably in the windings in the resistor pack itself. Edited January 10, 2011 by acecard Quote
bfc1001 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 heard it clicking today when fan was in position 1 or 2 so im guessing its that. just got to get the glove box off..... Quote
acecard Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 heard it clicking today when fan was in position 1 or 2 so im guessing its that. just got to get the glove box off.....Smidgeon of damage to the glovebox is a worthy sacrifice for heating and aircon - lets know how you did! Quote
bfc1001 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 heard it clicking today when fan was in position 1 or 2 so im guessing its that. just got to get the glove box off.....Smidgeon of damage to the glovebox is a worthy sacrifice for heating and aircon - lets know how you did! heating s fine,it just works on setting s three and four . as for my air con, never worked since ive had the car (03 tdi) Quote
antzatgalaxy Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 got the same problem myself with my blower. i think id be able to repair myself but was wondering is the glove box a pig to remove or just a couple of screws? mine s a mk2 galaxy on a 03 plate. OK, People understandably seem to be having problems removing the glove box and have a few misunderstanding about the resistor/fuse. There is a thread on here somewhere with more information, I looked it up first time I did the job, but haven't searched for it lately. I'll try and clarify here from my own experience, and I'm willing to be corrected. I've got a RHD car, but I've tried to describe it generically. First removing the glove box. It's not technically difficult, but it is a little tricky and while it shouldn't cause any damage, there is a risk of breaking a plastic clip, if you are not careful. You have to be a little brave with your force and know where to place it. Open the Glove box. The glove box is first held in place by the side-stops (the bit that stops it opening any further). The side-stop nearest the passenger door goes through a "removable" panel. Actually this panel isn't that easy to remove (and it would be a delight if it was -and you may not have to, but I did). This little panel is held in place by three plastic clips, one at the top (nearest the corner in the panel) one on the side nearest the passenger door (about 3/4 down) and one at the bottom (between the hole for the stop and the corner)and you obviously can't see any of them. There is also a "fin" that locates into a slot half way down this panel to prevent it moving towards the drivers side. On the inside of the glove box, just above this panel is a square hole. If you can get a short screw driver in there, you might be able to push down the top clip and pull this little panel towards you (get a flat blade screw driver in there) opening enough of a gap to see down inside. You want to pull this panel down like it was hinged on the bottom, but the clip on the side prevents this. Pulling slightly to the centre of the car release this clip with a slight bending of this small panel, then you can lift this panel out by pulling up (as it is sitting on the bottom clip). Now the glove box is only prevented from opening any further by the stop on the other side. If you put your thumb on the stop as close to the stop as possible, slightly close the glove box and then push down on this stop and open the glove box, it should deform just enough to get the stop out (you might be lucky and find this works for the other side too so you don't have to go through removing the little panel). At this point continue to lower the glove box until you meet resistance. Then push gently down to continue opening the door and the hinge side should pop out and the door fall to the floor. While you are doing this, the flap inside the glove box attached to the dash board should also fall out as once you lower the door far enough, it springs up and can be removed. Now, all you can see of the resistor pack is the metal back plate and the green socket as the actual resistor is on the other side of this plate inside the air flow (to keep it cool). You will need a T-20 (star shaped bit) to undo the single screw holing the resistor pack in place, but first remove the plug from socket. When you have undone this screw, lift and swing out the resistor pack from the bottom where you undid the screw. When replacing the glove box, clipping the hinges back in at the bottom is a little tricky and I found using a long screw driver to reach in and apply pressure to the hinge pins to get then to clip back in was easier than applying pressure to the door itself. Maybe use a dry lubricant to help?. Total job time 30 minutes once familiar. Hope that helps. Quote
bfc1001 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 cheers fella . ill give it a go this weekend or next , depending on what the missus has got lined up for me. Quote
bfc1001 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 well i managed to get glove box out today and undid resistor pack and changed thermal fuse . sadly still the same so looks like im off to vw for a new un. tested resistance and pins 1 and 4 all seem in order and so do 2 and 3 . i guess theres 2 seperate circuit s within the resistor pack and all seem to be ok . ill let u know how i go anyway . cheers. Quote
bfc1001 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 got part today , fitted it and the fans working a ok . thanks for the advice to all concerned . much appreciated and saved me a trip to a auto electricians. just got another quick question if anyone can help. my air con s not working and i thought id check to see ive got a 12v power supply to the compressor . when ive gone to unclip the power cable i cant seem to get it off . tried to practice on the alternator cable and could nt get that one off either! is there an easy way of unplugging the cable s cos i cant seem to suss it out? cheer s . Quote
paulthepunk Posted January 19, 2014 Report Posted January 19, 2014 Ok, so I've had to do this now too. The glove box is very easy to remove if you know how. Open her up and remove the hinged flap that connects the top of the glove box to the dash. Do this by putting a screwdriver behind the 3 hinges and gently prizing it towards you. Next grab the glove box on the outside right at the bottom and pull the whole thing towards you. Two lugs on the bottom right and left pop out, then just pull the whole glove box down, which makes the two arms come free of the holes they go into. Its very simple using this method, literally 3 minutes. Hope this helps someone! Quote
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