Indicators Dont Flash On Lock

[Munter]

Hi,

 

I tried the search but could not find anything specific to this..

 

My indicators used to flash when locking the car with the key fob. Today I noticed they did not flash so unlocked the car and tried again... no flash but the car did lock. I also notice the LED on the drivers side is flashing differently than it did.

 

Any ideas please? I have VAG-com, would this be something I could fix with it?

 

Its a Galaxy 2003 Tdi Ghia 130bhp

[Munter]

Forum back up... phew was starting to actually talk to the wife!!

 

ANyway update on this, the alarm now randomly goes off for no reason. I have had to remove the fuse to stop it annoying the neighbours. Also, I just found out the door lock does not work. I insert the key but it will not turn...

[gregers]

Forum back up... phew was starting to actually talk to the wife!!

 

steady man.

 

do you have remote locking?if so do the locks.lock/unlock?

if not have you checked the wiring in the door?

or is the key just spinning?iirc there isa kit you can buy to mend this?problem,has been covered before fraid your have to search for it.

[MrT]

I have seen this before when one of the door/bonnet/lock position sensors does not detect that something is closed. If not everything reports locked, the lights do not flash and you get a different pattern to the red door LED flash. It could be that the seized lock is not moving on electronic locking and the system still thinks the lock is open. This will also be why the alarm goes off.

 

Check you have no door opening warnings on your console, but this is not always correct as on this car some of the switches have two sets of contacts and sometimes the console lies about which door is open. The wiring harness to the doors or rear boot could be worn or broken where they enter the door/frame. As you have a seized lock, I would suggest looking in this area first.

[Stoneblade]

I have seen this before when one of the door/bonnet/lock position sensors does not detect that something is closed. If not everything reports locked, the lights do not flash and you get a different pattern to the red door LED flash. It could be that the seized lock is not moving on electronic locking and the system still thinks the lock is open. This will also be why the alarm goes off.

 

Check you have no door opening warnings on your console, but this is not always correct as on this car some of the switches have two sets of contacts and sometimes the console lies about which door is open. The wiring harness to the doors or rear boot could be worn or broken where they enter the door/frame. As you have a seized lock, I would suggest looking in this area first.

 

 

I would go with MrT on the checking of the door latches, I have found my rear door latch has a short on the sensor. Seeing you have Vagcom have a look under 09: Cent. Elect and see if there are any faults under that. Mine came up with this.

 

Address 09: Cent. Elect.

Controller: 7M3 962 258 S

Component: Multifunkt.Einh 0001

Coding: 04097

Shop #: WSC 00000

1 Faults Found:

01141 - Luggage Compartment Unlocking Switch (E165)

29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent

 

 

Hope that helps

Rob

[Munter]

Thanks guys. I checked all the doors actualy lock when i press the keyfob and they do. But like I said the drivers door keylock does not move at all. I will check VAG-Com tomorrow and see if I can get a repair kit for the lock.

 

Thanks for the replies.

[Munter]

UPDATE:

 

Checked VAG-Com today and no faults have been reported other than a fault on the fuse for the horn (which I know about cause I removed to to stop the horn sounding every 30 mins). I took the drivers door handle off to find the actual barrel is seized or faulty. It will not move even when out of the car. I checked again all dorrs to make sure they are locking... which they do.. other than checking every door sensor and wiring I'm at a loss.

 

Does anyone know if it is possible to buy a new barrel for the lock?

[Mirez]

UPDATE:

 

Checked VAG-Com today and no faults have been reported other than a fault on the fuse for the horn (which I know about cause I removed to to stop the horn sounding every 30 mins). I took the drivers door handle off to find the actual barrel is seized or faulty. It will not move even when out of the car. I checked again all dorrs to make sure they are locking... which they do.. other than checking every door sensor and wiring I'm at a loss.

 

Does anyone know if it is possible to buy a new barrel for the lock?

 

Just because the door is locking isn't confirmation that the door is classed as closed (ie, the ecu thinks the door is closed) as the doors will lock even on the 1st latched position - go back into vag-com, reload controler 9 but then go into "Measuring blocks" - from memory I think you want to look at block 5 - but you should find the block that shows the reported status of each door including the bonnet and tailgate. Obviously with all doors shut that should be reported as such within the block, if one isn't then thats the cause of your fault.

[Munter]

Thanks Mirez,

 

Checked VAG-COM again and I can see "Door Open" & "Door Closed" in block 02 as the attached screen shot. Only the last 2 sections change when I open or close doors, the first 2 sections are "Not Oper.". I checked Block 5 but could not make any sense of what I was seeing as there are no lables for what each section is telling me.

[Munter]

OK, its Sorted!!

 

Figured out thanks to the hint from Mirez that the Bonnet open switch is faulty. See the attached screen shot from VAG-Com, I have labeled up each "Cell" in group 2 and 15, these contain the Open or Closed states for Doors, Bonnet and Boot.

 

The Bonnet switch was fixed in a state of "Open" meaning the alarm was constantly sounding and the indicators would not flash when armed. I removed the switch completely leaving the wires loose, this has made the controler think the bonnet is closed, allowing the indicators to flash and the alarm to work correctly!

 

Will now get a replacement switch.

 

Thanks for all the advice guys.

Edited March 16, 2010 by Munter

[Mirez]

No problems - glad its sorted. I do have a label file I made up I would have sent you but work got in the way of helping lol!

 

Hopefully you should be able to replace the switch and get the alarm up and working again now, and its nice to hear your not a bodger and just gonna leave it disconnected! lol :25:

Edited March 16, 2010 by Mirez

[Munter]

Would still be interested in the label file...

[Mirez]

Would still be interested in the label file...

 

I've got a few for the various controllers around the car, I'll fire up the laptop later and start a new thread with them all attached :25:

[gregers]

GOOD LAD ,you know it makes sense mirez :25:

[galuxy]

UPDATE:

 

Checked VAG-Com today and no faults have been reported other than a fault on the fuse for the horn (which I know about cause I removed to to stop the horn sounding every 30 mins). I took the drivers door handle off to find the actual barrel is seized or faulty. It will not move even when out of the car. I checked again all dorrs to make sure they are locking... which they do.. other than checking every door sensor and wiring I'm at a loss.

 

Does anyone know if it is possible to buy a new barrel for the lock?

 

Just because the door is locking isn't confirmation that the door is classed as closed (ie, the ecu thinks the door is closed) as the doors will lock even on the 1st latched position - go back into vag-com, reload controler 9 but then go into "Measuring blocks" - from memory I think you want to look at block 5 - but you should find the block that shows the reported status of each door including the bonnet and tailgate. Obviously with all doors shut that should be reported as such within the block, if one isn't then thats the cause of your fault.

 

For a while I have had the same problem (indicators not flashing on lock/open).The warning beeper when lights left on also does not work.Checked fuses all OK.Thanks to hints here it has dawned on me that a wire in the drivers door connection must be broken.Had it before when windows would not open/close.Thanks again for the replies it has saved me a lot of trouble.

[dave030445]

Would still be interested in the label file...

 

I've got a few for the various controllers around the car, I'll fire up the laptop later and start a new thread with them all attached :rolleyes:

Hi Mirez have you had chance to do this yet. If you have i cant find it anywhere.

cheers dave

Edited March 22, 2010 by dave030445

[Mirez]

Nope not yet, not at home this week :rolleyes: