Car Turns Over But Will Not Start

[elkthing]

Hi,

 

I have 2003 TDI and it will not start, the engine turns over and starts briefly and then stops. The car was working fine when parked, but upon return problem occured. The remote has been taking a few press of the buttons to activate the alarm, has been steadily getting worse. Batteries where replaced a week ago on the remote, and had been working up till now But remote problem had been returning, hope some one can help.

 

Thanks

[seatkid]

PATS (immobiliser) problem.

 

Did the PATS chip fall out of the key when you changed the battery? Without the PATS chip in the key, the engine will start and stop about 2 secs later.

[kester]

sounds like mine. Could be immobilizer/remote problem, is the red light on drivers door flashing frantically after trying to start? get/check VAG COM error codes. COntact me if so and I'll let you know how I get on, getting auto electrician to look on Friday

 

Also check spare key if you have one!

[elkthing]

Thanks for both your replys, have now fixed the problem. My wife had the car when the problem happened, after recovery service took car to local garage she remembered that the key had come apart in two!! It seems that the remote alarm was playing up again, so she unlocked the door manually. At this point the blade part of the key came away from the horse shoe part of the key. I took key apart again, and yes the pat chip was missing, so 11pm last night i was in a supermarket car park looking for a needle in a haystack. After 10 mins of looking in the dark with a torch, i some how found it ( still cant believe it now ). Put chip back in to remote key, and car started first time. Im now going to glue chip in key, also going to buy a second remote key.

[big_kev]

My wife had the car when the problem happened, after recovery service took car to local garage she remembered that the key had come apart in two!! It seems that the remote alarm was playing up again, so she unlocked the door manually. At this point the blade part of the key came away from the horse shoe part of the key.

 

Your own fault for letting her use it.........hope you have learned your lesson ;)

[Mirez]

so 11pm last night i was in a supermarket car park looking for a needle in a haystack. After 10 mins of looking in the dark with a torch, i some how found it ( still cant believe it now ). Put chip back in to remote key, and car started first time.

 

...buy several lottery tickets this week. ;) :D

[big_kev]

...buy several lottery tickets this week. :D ;)

 

A divorce would be more financially beneficial... :D

[737100]

...buy several lottery tickets this week. :o :lol:

 

A divorce would be more financially beneficial... :P

 

 

I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM TODAY THE KEY CAME APART HOWEVER UNSURE AS TO WERE PATS chip SITS IN THE KEY FOB SO DO NOT KNOW IF I HAVE LOST THIS OR NOT I FEEL THAT I HAVE IF THIS IS THE CASE CAN YOU GET NEW PATS CHIP OR WILL IT BE A NEW KEY ?

 

ANY INFO PLEASE

THANKS

[gregers]

if there is no little black box type thingy in your key go back with a torch get on your hands and knees and prey that you find it,coz a dealer will charge you anything upto

[737100]

if there is no little black box type thingy in your key go back with a torch get on your hands and knees and prey that you find it,coz a dealer will charge you anything upto

[mk2vr6]

why does everyone keep saying thats its a dealer only thing to get new keys cut and programmed into the system? there are plenty of locksmiths that are able to it and at a lot lower price than the dealers! and these guys will come to you

[bj2004]

why does everyone keep saying thats its a dealer only thing to get new keys cut and programmed into the system? there are plenty of locksmiths that are able to it and at a lot lower price than the dealers! and these guys will come to you

 

yes i got mine done for

[seatkid]

I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM TODAY THE KEY CAME APART HOWEVER UNSURE AS TO WERE PATS chip SITS IN THE KEY FOB SO DO NOT KNOW IF I HAVE LOST THIS OR NOT I FEEL THAT I HAVE IF THIS IS THE CASE CAN YOU GET NEW PATS CHIP OR WILL IT BE A NEW KEY ?

 

ANY INFO PLEASE

THANKS

It sits in blade end of the housing

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/uploads/monthly_12_2009/post-892-1259766627.jpg

[737100]

why does everyone keep saying thats its a dealer only thing to get new keys cut and programmed into the system? there are plenty of locksmiths that are able to it and at a lot lower price than the dealers! and these guys will come to you

 

Anyone know of locksmiths in the Milton Keynes area that would do this?? so i do not have to go to dealer, also i know i may have asked this before but can you buy/get just the pat chip or is a new key fob ??

Edited December 20, 2009 by 737100

[Saif Rehman]

Anyone know of locksmiths in the Milton Keynes area that would do this?? so i do not have to go to dealer, also i know i may have asked this before but can you buy/get just the pat chip or is a new key fob ??

 

If no-one suggests any then try the Yellow Pages or yell.com for auto locksmiths, in regards to the pats chip, you cannot buy them on their own, it will have to be the complete key fob and key blade as the chip is normally situated at the blade end (see previous picture). But make sure the frequency matches your old one (embossed on the side). They normally pop up on ebay and also the blank key blade so you can have it cut and programmed for your car.

Edited December 20, 2009 by Saif Rehman

[gregers]

saif just for info m8,there is someone selling pats chips or they were on ebay?,they also sell the complete blank and chip aswell.wether they are selling at the mo,fraid you will have to search.

[Saif Rehman]

saif just for info m8,there is someone selling pats chips or they were on ebay?,they also sell the complete blank and chip aswell.wether they are selling at the mo,fraid you will have to search.

 

Cheers gregers, i stand corrected.