Red Tdi

[zed]

Hi all my last post about my 130 tdi ,being a 130 with a red tdi badge,which made me think it was a 130 and the last owner saying it was.i did a reg check and it is a 115,maybe this is why i dont feel alot quicker than my old 110.is there a easy way to increase power and what does the red badge mean ? ;)

[Saif Rehman]

Hi all my last post about my 130 tdi ,being a 130 with a red tdi badge,which made me think it was a 130 and the last owner saying it was.i did a reg check and it is a 115,maybe this is why i dont feel alot quicker than my old 110.is there a easy way to increase power and what does the red badge mean ? ;)

 

TDi

 

Silver TD red i = 115bhp

Silver TDi but with red outer all the way round = 130bhp

All red TDi (no silver) = 150bhp

 

Looks like the previous owner stuck the wrong badge on the tailgate. ;)

 

Increase power? Remap is the only solution bar sticking a bigger engine in but even then, make sure the remap is done by a professional company with a good reputation, guarantee and on a 'trial first' basis.

Edited October 30, 2009 by Saif Rehman

[gregers]

you sure saif?

mines got red all way round and its a 115bhp,just checked on askmid

 

i thought it was

red all round the silver was -115

red i -130

all red -150

 

but who knows?

[Saif Rehman]

gregers, maybe someone stuck a wrong badge on your one! ;)

 

To be honest, i'm confused now......................... ;) ;)

[Willie Krashitt]

Remap for more power? Enjoy the new world of overheating, leaking head gaskets and cracked heads. You can sometimes get away with "remaps" on lighter vehicles where the engine isn't running at a high load for too long, but a Galaxy weighs 2 tons before you start putting people and stuff into it. There have been plenty of people on this site who have suffered from the above maladies having had "remaps".

If you really must have more power, then seek out and buy a car that has the right engine for you.

 

If a simple "remap" were all that was necessary to obtain the higher power, you can guarantee that VW would have done so. 130/150PS engines got different injectors for each power level (more flow), different turbo's , bigger intercoolers air cleaners and exhaust systems to name just a few bits that were different, and the torque curves are virtually identical upto 2500rpm for 115, 130 and 150PS.

Ask yourself, why on earth would the manufacturers spend millions of pounds/euros and 2-3 years with incredibly high tech equipment/facilities developing the calibration in the PCM if someone with a laptop anda rolling road dyno in a backstreet lock up can do a better job in 30 minutes for

[jkspoff]

Well said Willie, I couldn't have put it better myself having suffered this issue on my last Gal.

[Saif Rehman]

Ahhh, seems to be a little differences in the pro's and con debate in regards to ecu remapping. I did a little digging into this and found this.

 

I will cut and paste a few lines:

 

"So why should I remap my ECU? When vehicles are distributed throughout the world, manufacturers adopt a one map fits all policy. This one map has to take into account many different factors that are necessary for each export country. Areas such as climate, emissions, fuel quality etc all have to be considered by the manufacturer. What this means is that a vehicle ECU is never optimised for one individual situation."

"Please be aware that, although remapping/chipping an ECU does not cause failure it can exasperate already failing components."

 

 

George, you mentioned that "almost any remap will involve the engine in running beyond its design parameters......" surely any reputable ecu remapper will not allow the car to pass these parameters and that the engine will have some sort of tolerance levels.

 

Please do not think that i endorse/encourage remaps - just that i wanted to see what the general census is before i make my own mind up on this issue of remapping.

[big_kev]

"Please be aware that, although remapping/chipping an ECU does not cause failure it can exasperate already failing components."

 

I can't believe anyone is daft enough to believe that .... :o

[Willie Krashitt]

To answer Saif's question.

 

If you aren't sure whether the 'remapper' is taking the engine beyond it's design limits or not, ask him to show you the factory supplied data stating what the limits are and equipment he uses to prove that the limits are respected. Decent kit to measure the in-cylinder pressure on each cylinder starts at about