Electrical Problems (blowers And Wipers)

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Still having problems with my blowers and wipers playing up. Usually don't come on until engine has been running for about 5 mins.

 

Thought it was earthing, so tried to find problem today. The earth points I could find (under the front of the battery look fine).

 

Looked at wiring diagram and haynes manual, both items seem somehow linked to a load reduction relay.

 

So playing around with turning ignitiion on and off, some times blower and wipers come on (hear a click), and when they don't come on, don't hear a click. Haynes manual section on relays seems to point to a relay problem.

 

Could it be the load reduction relay and if so where do I find it. It's not mentioned in my handbook.

 

Any suggestion anyone out there - PLEASE

[Ivor_E_Tower]

..playing around with ignition key...sometimes click....

 

Maybe the ignition switch is on the way out? Can you get to the back of it to "short" out the ignition-switched accessories, and if so, do the wipers work straight away? If so, duff ignition switch.

[Guest nimrod]

Haynes wiring diagram does indeed show both these ciruits using a load reduction relay, try relay K149 middle row fourth from the left

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Nimrod and Ivor_E thanks.

 

I guess I'll have to try both of these. Couple more questions:-

 

1) How do I get to the back of the ignition switch to short out the accessories ?

Hope it's not remove the steering column cover - I hate messing near the airbag.

 

2) How do I check to see if the relay is duff ?

 

Also don't have a k149. my relays in mainbox are numbered as follows:-

 

128 169 53 x x

x 72 109 18 x 21

x 99 36 ? 53 103

 

Note position 10 is ?, because it has no cover but has some sort of connection.

 

Thanks again

[seatkid]

Relay layout below (-97)

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:D

Guys - Brilliant, superb and fantastic - problem fixed

 

I went to ford (in Cambridge)with Seatkid's diagram and told them what I wanted, half an hour later they still coudn't find the relay I needed. Their parts system doesn't even list a "load reduction relay" and their diagram is worse than the Haynes manual. Their chief mechanic recognised the diagram (same as comes up on his system), but still couldn't identify the part I needed. and said he has never needed to change one.

 

The old part has a number 18 on it and was a VW part, so I went next door to VW (Vindis), luckily on the same site. They identified the part and game me a new one.

 

Plugged it in and it works - amazing.

 

So if anyone has a similar problem on a 1.9TDI galaxy, you need a "load Reduction relay" - in the position as per Seatkids diagram. The part number is "7M0951253A" and cost 10.96 (inc VAT).

 

Thanks again

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[italiastar]

The incompetance of main dealers never ceases to amaze me - Well Done SEATKID !!!!!

[seatkid]

Due credit to Nimrod for correctly pointing to relay.

 

In many cases it appears a picture and/or diagram helps.

 

The Ford TIS CD contains comprehensive wiring diagrams for all variants, the only problem is they're not very easy to follow.