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Hi

I hope that some one will be able to help me. My vehicle is a 1997 Seat Alhambra with a 2 litre petrol engine (VW) The problem that I am having is that while driving along the engine will cut out for a split seconed and then restart this may happen once or can repeat cutting out 5 or 6 times and then it will be fine untill the next time when ever. On one occation the engine stoped and would not restart untill the car sat for about 15 minutes. I had it pluged in and no faults were found. Different folk have suggested different things, distrubuter. CPS, ECU, Relay (which one there are 15 of them?) etc etc. Got any ideas.

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it is a lot of money for such a simple sensor. the problem is that you do not know if this will fix it. cutting out could have several reasons:

f.e. the relays for ignition and fuel pump, ignition coils, other sensors to de ECM(there are a lot of them) or bad connections/broken wires.

 

The first thing I would do is simply replace the power relays (2). These do not cost a lot. In you drivers manual you can find where they are located. just pull out and replace.

 

if this does not work the problem is elsewhere.

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my 97 tdi was having the same problems, it would cut out and i had to pull over and re start the engine. it was as if the plug was pulled on an electrical item.

i got relay 109 replaced

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Thanks for advice. But don't have a relay 109. Here is what I have 128,169,53(x3)72,30,18,21,95 99,36,167. I have read some where on the site about a relay 30 what is it for? Can any one tell what they are all for? Thanks.
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Thanks for the info. Went yesterday to local Ford dealer don't have relay No 30 in stock so then went into VW dealer (just across the road) don't have in stock either. Seat dealer to far to go. Had no time! The guy in the VW dealer sugested to clean the Lambreta sensors two of them on my wagon. Is this a posible fault? Won't have time to try it untill Tuesday night.
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They are sensors on the exaust one before the cat. and one after. maybe the spelling is not corect.
Guest nimrod
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I think the word your looking for is LAMBDA sensor its usually fitted in the exhaust before the cat but on some cars there is a second one fitted after the cat it measures the amount of unburnt oxygen in the exhaust gases and tells the engine managment system to adjust the fuel air mix as needed, a Lambreta is a scooter ridden by old men and mod wanna be's <_< and isnt really much use to you :D
Posted

Do you really need a sensor (or even 2 sensors) to tell you that you've just run one of them over?

<_>

Posted
serious, cleaning the lambda sensor will not make much sense. It has protective metal around the sensor. If it is very polluted maybe the holes in the metal are cloughed. if it is defective it should be replaced, this can be measured.
Posted
Got the sensor out looks fine the slots are all even and very clean no carbon, so tomorrow I will order the power relay No. 30 and try that.
  • 1 month later...
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Well it has been quite a while now since I last was on line. I have been on a 1200 mile round trip to the south coast. The car only missed once. When I arrived back the problem just seem to increase. Finally I got so fed up that I took the car to the seat dealer. They pluged her in and 1fault was detected. Engine speed sender-G28 signal outside tolerance sporadic. so I ordered a new speed sender at
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what are the lambreta sensors?

They're devices similar to parking sensors, except they alert you to oncoming Mods and force your car to swerve into their path in order to prevent their recurrence...

  • 3 months later...
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Hi

 

Would some be kind enough to point out the same relays on a 1999 Ghia X 2.3 (Petrol).

 

Same situation with Ford: No faults on the diagnostic computer.

 

Intermittment dropping of revs when car is warmed up and idling in traffic etc.

Ocassional cut-out.

I am sure I can feel a slight 'shake' through the steering wheel as the revs 'bounce' ever so slightly.

 

Am I right in thinking its relay 26 for the power relay and relay 24 for the fuel pump?

 

Would be nice to sort this oput before Ford have the car for 'a few days' to find the fault!

 

Easy to replace????

 

Thanks

 

Sach

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Do you really need a sensor (or even 2 sensors) to tell you that you've just run one of them over?

B)

Do you need to know or even care?

now now boys, mods and scooter riders do have feelings! so try to mortally wound them so they can suffer a bit before you finish them off by backing over them! B)

 

 

Sach

 

try the Idle Air Control Valve, its located on top of the inlet manifold under the injectors, its held in place by two bolts and has one electrical plug to it, it may need cleaning?

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try the Idle Air Control Valve, its located on top of the inlet manifold under the injectors, its held in place by two bolts and has one electrical plug to it, it may need cleaning?

 

Thanks Fred.

 

Will pursue relays as well.....

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Intermittment dropping of revs when car is warmed up and idling in traffic etc.

Ocassional cut-out.

I am sure I can feel a slight 'shake' through the steering wheel as the revs 'bounce' ever so slightly.

 

check your wirings to the coils (they crack!) / or the coils itselves could be faulty

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