I Did My Tdi Pd Timing Belt Wrong

[Mark & Cath]

I made a mistake when doing my timing belt and I am posting this so all the newbies like me can get a heads up.

 

The problem is the crank locking tool can go in wrongly and cause the timing to be slightly out, not enough to do any damage but enough to cause the engine to run a little off.

 

When you install the tool from above (which you do to get a better view of the pin going into the block) it fails to engage the right hand side of the tool, the timing marks are on the left and they line up so you assume it doesn't matter but it does. See picture below

 

http://www.picturebay.net/img/guests/8113619470/wrong.GIF

 

The way to do this is to insert the tool from the front, although it is a pain to get the tool to lock in when you can't see the hole it is the only way. Correct picture is below

 

http://www.picturebay.net/img/guests/8113619470/right.GIF

 

In reality this makes 2 degrees difference to the timing and this does effect how my engine runs.

 

That's it then boys/gals, I made a mistake and now hopefully a few other first timers will not have to. Good luck......

 

 

P.S. I wouldn't have known but the tool manufacture replied to my e-Mail with the advice so credit to laser tools for customer support.

[Richard gal]

I used a draper tool (off ebay) it would not go in until perfectly aligned, for a while i thought the tool wasnt made right!

[DaveJH]

How can you check if the timing is out by say 2 degrees ?

 

My Galaxy 1.9TDI has just had its 60K service with change of timing belt and tensioner.

 

The car is now doing about 5 mile gal less than before its service (on regular long return trips to Oxford and Yorkshire).

 

We are going to have problems argueing this with the Ford garage since the trip computer today bested at 46 mpg, and was less than this for considerable periods. Ford will say that this is good, while we know from our regular weekly trips that over 50 mpg is commonplace and 48 is 'a poor run'.

 

Incidently, as part of the service I instsited on Ford Formula SD oil, and have been billed for expensive 5W40 oil so presumably this is indeed what they used - again from past experience the correct oil can make a difference).

 

Regards

 

DaveJH

[srafferty]

AFAIK you can check the timing on VagCom.

 

Do a search.

 

As far as oil is concerned it is ESSENTIAL to use aproper PD oil

 

<_<

[Willie Krashitt]

If your service was at a Ford main dealer, and they have billed you for 5W40 oil, then this should be Formula S/SD, which is correct for PD engines. It is (allegedly) the only oil Ford list that is 5W40.

George.

[Mark & Cath]

How can you check if the timing is out by say 2 degrees ?

 

My Galaxy 1.9TDI has just had its 60K service with change of timing belt and tensioner.

 

The car is now doing about 5 mile gal less than before its service (on regular long return trips to Oxford and Yorkshire).

 

We are going to have problems argueing this with the Ford garage since the trip computer today bested at 46 mpg, and was less than this for considerable periods. Ford will say that this is good, while we know from our regular weekly trips that over 50 mpg is commonplace and 48 is 'a poor run'.

 

Incidently, as part of the service I instsited on Ford Formula SD oil, and have been billed for expensive 5W40 oil so presumably this is indeed what they used - again from past experience the correct oil can make a difference).

 

Regards

 

DaveJH

 

The timing is indeed checked with VAG.COM, the leads are only

[DaveJH]

Dear All

 

Thanks to all for suggestions re using VSAG COM

 

I have had a look at threads and ebay.

 

ebay lists two types of lead:

 

USB VAG-COM 409.1 OBD 2 II CABLE LEAD AUDI VW VAG COM

 

VAG-COM USB KKL OBD 2 Cable VAG.COM AUDI VW Skoda Seat

 

Which VAG.COM cable is suitable for use with my Galaxy 2005 1.9 TDI 150bhp - none of the ebay sites that I looked at mention Galaxy or Sharan on compatibility tables. (My laptop has USB ports).

 

Also, is the "free demo software" you mention , for example, the Ross-Tech VAG-COM shareware software, or software supplied by the vendor.

 

Apologies for these further queries, but I want to get the correct kit first-time to avoid having to come back with yet more questions.

 

Thanks and regards

 

DaveJH

 

 

 

 

 

How can you check if the timing is out by say 2 degrees ?

 

My Galaxy 1.9TDI has just had its 60K service with change of timing belt and tensioner.

 

The car is now doing about 5 mile gal less than before its service (on regular long return trips to Oxford and Yorkshire).

 

We are going to have problems argueing this with the Ford garage since the trip computer today bested at 46 mpg, and was less than this for considerable periods. Ford will say that this is good, while we know from our regular weekly trips that over 50 mpg is commonplace and 48 is 'a poor run'.

 

Incidently, as part of the service I instsited on Ford Formula SD oil, and have been billed for expensive 5W40 oil so presumably this is indeed what they used - again from past experience the correct oil can make a difference).

 

Regards

 

DaveJH

 

The timing is indeed checked with VAG.COM, the leads are only

[Mark & Cath]

Sorry Dave I missed your question earlier.

 

The lead you need is VAG.COM 409.1 compatible amd the software is the shareware version, see http://www.ross-tech.net/vag-com/download/...lease4091us.exe

 

Best of luck.

[DaveJH]

Mark & Cath

 

Thanks for all your help - shall do.

 

DaveJH

 

Sorry Dave I missed your question earlier.

 

The lead you need is VAG.COM 409.1 compatible amd the software is the shareware version, see http://www.ross-tech.net/vag-com/download/...lease4091us.exe

 

Best of luck.