Help !

[koro]

:P I am at this moment in the process of fitting a Spal Remote Control Central Locking, I have located nearly all the wire joints I have to make.My big problem is that I have to make a conection to the positive present at the ignition switch... To take the cowling off to get to barrel, there remains a screw in behind the steering wheel, I am dubious of setting off or knackering the air bag, does the VW badge come out with prizing? or is there somewhere else that I can find the wire I need to attach to?

 

I CAN SURE DO WITH SOME HELP..... :P

[ALARM MAN]

Stop right there !!!

 

Why take the cowling off ? :P

 

If you have found the central locking wires are they at the fuse box ?

 

If so you have numerous power wire mainly RED to use

 

They say at ignition switch but that means a wire coming or going to

 

Please leave Airbag alone ( dont mean to be funny just costs lots to reset )

 

Plus i dont think there is one there any how

 

Regards Ian

 

if you need any more info let me know :P

[koro]

cheers for the reply, do I need to conect to a permanent live, where it says attach to ignition?? how many live feeds does the thing need... There was enough slack to connect to the central locking where it comes in behind the kicker plate..

 

I am just going to reconect the earth as the bloody thing dont work.. probably, no, more likely I cocked up

[ALARM MAN]

What configeration have to set the unit to

Pos or neg locking ?

 

Ian

[koro]

Thanks for helping, positive locking

This spal module has a flashing LED, when I connect the module wire (purple) to a live the LED flashes correctly for locking and unlocking, and the module clicks, nowt happens at the doors. Not sure if all the purple wire does is light the LED, though its the only time the module makes any noise...

 

What I have is

Module Blue/Red + Green/Red going through a 5 amp fuse to permanent live (this I have tested)

Module Blue conected to Grey in loom to door

Module Green conected to Green in loom to door

Module Red conected to 15A fuse to permanent live (confirm,have tested)

Module Black to earth

Module Grey to earth

Module pink,white,white/black, brown not required (car alarm)

 

Module yellow (2off) conect to indicators (have not done as yet)

Module Violet it says conect to +12v( +30 permanent positive)

Module Orange it says conect to ignition live..

 

These last 2 confuse me as to where I am supposed to conect them, and what they actually do, the system supposedly does everything, like close electric windows, interior light and flash indicators.

I know I am doing something wrong somewhere, if someone can tell me I would be eternally gratefull...

As it stands at the moment I am scratching my head... :P

[koro]

Must say thanks very much to mussy and alarm man, creep creep hope they can help further :P

[ALARM MAN]

Do not put grey to earth this picks up door contact

 

Locking unit will not lock if door is open

 

grey wire to earth unit thinks door is open

disconect this wire should work

 

get back to me

 

Ian

[Mussey1]

Koro,

 

In my car the unlock wire in the loom is GREEN/REDnot solid Green.

 

It may be different in yours.

 

Mussey1.

[koro]

:P Alarm Man what can I say, thankyou so very much for replying late at night... I was up in the early hours reconecting wires time and time again, trying to figure out what I had done wrong and then bingo, remove the grey earth and presto something happens..If you don't mind could you assist in helping me finnish off my problems.

 

Removing the grey earth, and making the Violet connected to a permanent live, enables me to lock all the doors, indicators flash, although electric windows dont close. When I try to unlock, the module is making the right noises but wont unlock doors, using the ignition key works. The module Orange is not conected, when I hold it to the permanent live, nothing works. Any sugestions what I do with this Orange.

 

 

Finally, just a little thing, the Module LED, does this thing permanently flash?

On the rear of the instructions it gives programable functions, I am meant to make the "Automatic comfort" , "on" from the default programming of "off".

I await your instructions, your highness :P

 

Thanks

[koro]

Hey Mussey, thanks, I missed your last post, whilst typing to Alarm Man reply, as you will not have realised that unlocking is a problem you may have a point, will check it out :P unfortunatly I have to take my wife out shopping, if anyone can confirm that the unlock wire is as Mussey says on my VW, would appreciate it.

 

Thanks everyone

[Mussey1]

koro,

 

With regards to your global closure, does your module have a row of dip switches?

 

If so you will need to set the switch that will allow a lengthening of the pulse from the remote to allow the windows.

 

Mussey1.

[Mussey1]

Koro,

 

does the system work if you don't use the grey,violet,orange and yellow wires?

 

Mussey1.

[koro]

Mussey1

 

Grey not conected meant to go to earth, thanks to AlarmMan doors lock with it unconected.

Violet conected to permanent live, nothing works without it conected

Orange ( dont know what to to with this one) when tempoarily conected to permanent live, nothing works.

Yellow wires not conected, on locking, indicators flash.

 

The module has no dip switches, but a LED and instructions on how to program the module from the key fob. Instructions are gobly gook, just like the rest of them.

 

Wouldn't have got this far without you guys help :)

 

Just going out to try the Green/Red..

 

When in town I called in at VW garage, very helpful. When they looked it up on their system acording to their wiring diagram. Yellow= Open, Yellow/Black= Closed

I told them that I had conected the Grey= Closed, and it works. They think that I am conected to the electric window, and the pulse is feeding through to the lock.

 

Getting confused, not that that is difficult :huh:

[koro]

:D Good one Green/Red conection unlocks the doors, indicators flash and courtesy lights do what they are supposed to :)

 

At this stage I am very happy, but it would be nice to be able to have the windows (Global closure) close, as they are meant to. The LED continually flashes, I am sure it's not meant to, as when you are supposed to program the module, it gives 1 blink, 2blinks and so on...Now I aint sure if I get to program the module, what it will actually enable to happen, other than it says "Automatic Comfort" enable "on" from the factory default of "off"...

 

You have been superb, any chance of getting the windows to work :huh:

 

And that orange (ruddy thing) what do I do with it, I get the impression it may have something to do with all this...

[Mussey1]

Koro,

 

Try and program the comfort function to 'on'.

In order for the global closure to work you need to lengthen the pulse coming from the remote fob i.e. the windows will close as long as you have the button pressed.

 

If it doesn't work the orange may need to be connected to the electric window/global function wire, but i'm not too sure what one that is.

 

Mind you how often do you use the global function??

 

One step at a time I suppose!!

 

Mussey1.

[Mussey1]

I forgot..'Automatic comfort' actually means 'Global closure'

 

Mussey1.

[koro]

Cheers Mussey1, Whilst thinking that the Orange wire had some purpose, I didn't realise that "Automatic Comfort" meant "Global Closure" :huh:

[koro]

Hi,

 

It will sound like a feeble excuse, but my telephone line has been down since my last post, therefore have not been able to get on line, it's the truth, honest.

 

With great thanks to Mussey1 and the AlarmMan I have been able to get the Central Locking to work remotely, though I am having dificulty programming the module to enable "Automatic Comfort". I may or may not give up on this. Getting into Valet mode is easy enough to renable Keyfobs...

 

I bought the Module from Sempal, it is a Spal AS80 and cost me